INFO-VAX Sun, 04 Mar 2007 Volume 2007 : Issue 126 Contents: Re: Blue Screen of Death on VMS Re: Cluster connection lost when one link fails? Re: DECforms Re: How to use Pseudo Terminal Driver My Linux Page Re: Privs required for NCP SET and DEFINE Re: Wanted: MicroVAX I / VAXstation I owners Re: Wanted: MicroVAX I / VAXstation I owners Re: Wanted: MicroVAX I / VAXstation I owners Re: Wanted: MicroVAX I / VAXstation I owners Re: Wanted: MicroVAX I / VAXstation I owners ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2007 10:28:18 +0100 From: Michael Kraemer Subject: Re: Blue Screen of Death on VMS Message-ID: FredK schrieb: > > Thank you. I chose it because it is the universal symbol for "this system > isn't running right now, thanks for your support". > It's not universal. The white-on-blue colour combination was the default mode of operation for the Amiga Workbench 1.x in the 1980s. And I remember vaguely that the DOS boxes had that combination too. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2007 09:14:40 +0000 From: "R.A.Omond" Subject: Re: Cluster connection lost when one link fails? Message-ID: Volker Halle wrote: > A solution is now publicly available in VMS83I_LAN-V0300 (for OpenVMS > I64 V8.3). Please refer to the problem description and analysis in > section 5.2.4 CLUEXIT in the release notes of this patch. > > Drivers affected are: > > [SYS$LDR]SYS$EWDRIVER.EXE > [SYS$LDR]SYS$EWDRIVER_DE500BA.EXE Oh, oh ... "for OpenVMS *I64* V8.3". Am I being paranoid, but there's no mention of Alpha, which is where we are being hit by this problem. I'll check the release notes. Back later. ------------------------------ Date: 4 Mar 2007 07:35:39 GMT From: "Dave Weatherall" Subject: Re: DECforms Message-ID: On Sun, 4 Mar 2007 04:44:12 UTC, Paul Sture wrote: > In article , > Michael Kraemer wrote: > > > That's not quite true. > > Over here in de at least they got large retailers > > to preload OS/2 on their consumer PCs. > > But that was back in the 1994 time frame. > > The rest of the IT industry didn't follow, unfortunately. > > There was a German retailer trying its hand out in the UK high street in > that time frame and IIRC they offered Warp. Win95 was just around the > corner of course, and there was also the frustration of document > exchange with the rest of the world if you weren't running Office. EsCom? My sister-in-law bought a 486(?) box from them. It ran OS/2 and I was asked to make it run the 'normal' MS product : I did. The box has an AMD 586 in it now but hasn't been switched on in years. It sits in the corner here awaiting its trip to the recycling centre. I'm using Warp 4 to type this, because I like the newsreader, but that's all it's used for. I keep telling myself I'll switch to Linux but always get frustrated there too... -- Cheers - Dave W. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 10:40:20 +0100 From: "Eberhard Heuser" Subject: Re: How to use Pseudo Terminal Driver Message-ID: <004701c75e41$20c253c0$0801a8c0@athlon1> http://h71000.www7.hp.com/freeware/freeware80/logger/ ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 11:48 PM Subject: How to use Pseudo Terminal Driver > Hi Group, > > I am trying to use the pseudo terminal driver to fake user input to a > program I wrote for testing and I just cannot get my head how the > pseudo terminal driver works. In the end I wish to have a text file > that my pseudo terminal driver reads from and sends to my program. > At the moment I am only interested in sending commands to my program. > > Yes I know I can do this via DCL script files, however I am interested > in the pseudo terminal driver since it is about the only I/O driver I > have not successfully used. > > My understanding is I need to create a pseudo terminal via the ptd > $create. > > Now comes the part I don't understand, how do I get this terminal to > login into my VMS system? > > I am using a captive account so the login procedure for the account > starts my program. > > At this stage I wish to start entering commands, which in my case are > just number for menu selection. > > Any one got a simple example of how to do this using the pseudo > terminal driver? > > I have seen the one in the VMS manual and this is a little to > complicated to dissect. > > Thanks > > Mark > ------------------------------ Date: 4 Mar 2007 07:22:56 -0800 From: "sdsingle" Subject: My Linux Page Message-ID: <1173021775.885732.163780@i80g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> For all the latest News on Linux and Open Source http://mylinuxpage.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2007 11:10:58 -0700 From: Jim Mehlhop Subject: Re: Privs required for NCP SET and DEFINE Message-ID: <45EB0BB2.8030609@qwest.net> Jim Duff wrote: > Jeff Cameron wrote: > >> I hope someone can help me here, >> >> What minimum privilege or privileges are required to perform the >> following >> NCP> commands: >> NCP> SET NODE HARDWARE ADDRESS >> NCP> DEF NODE HARDWARE ADDRESS >> >> I currently have just TMPMBX and NETMBX and can run NCP and do a : >> >> NCP> SHOW NODE CHARACTERISTICS >> >> I'm configuring some replacement DECServers and need to change the e-Net >> address so they can boot. >> The system admin only wants to grant me those privileges I need to do the >> job. >> Thanks in Advance. >> > > Page 2-2 in the "DECnet for OpenVMS Network Management Utilities" > manual, found here: http://tinyurl.com/2ne4bz (warning, large PDF > document). > > At first glance, it looks like SYSPRV and OPER, which I doubt your admin > will just casually grant you ;-) > > Jim. Have the SYSADMIN install NCP with the required privs and put an ACL on NCP Jim ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2007 07:53:19 +0100 From: Paul Sture Subject: Re: Wanted: MicroVAX I / VAXstation I owners Message-ID: In article , Tad Winters wrote: > At one point, I had 2 MicroVAX 2000 systems. Ugh! They took 25 minutes to > boot...and yes, that was from disk. I found my VAXstation quite acceptable for editing and compilation, though I ran VWS rather than DECwindows. OTOH I was comparing it with a customer's 11/750. On a good day I could get through a quality newspaper while waiting for compiles; a bad day was painful. -- Paul Sture ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 13:28:24 -0500 From: Bob Willard Subject: Re: Wanted: MicroVAX I / VAXstation I owners Message-ID: <9IidnXYDhf2hI3TYnZ2dnUVZ_tKjnZ2d@comcast.com> sean@obanion.us wrote: > On Mar 2, 3:04 am, "vaxorcist" wrote: > >>Who else has got (and eventually runs) the worlds slowest VAX ever ??? >> >>I'm going to build one from parts and will probably need some help. >>All OSes welcome! >> >>Regards >> >>Ulli > > > Wan't the VAX-11/730 slower? I think it was about .3 VUP... > > When I installed bsd 4.1 (circa 1985, it was new!), the installation > notes said the the 730 was not fast enough to be usefull. > > > Sean > IIRC, the uVAX-I was ~1/3 VUP, the 730 (and the 725?) was ~1/2 VUP, the 750 (and the obscure 751) ~ 2/3 VUP. I had a uVAX-I as my first home computer, DECnetted into the real VAXen at work. That uVAX-I was fast enough to do useful work, including compile/link/run FORTRAN apps. -- Cheers, Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 12:16:58 +0000 (UTC) From: dfevans@bcr10.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Wanted: MicroVAX I / VAXstation I owners Message-ID: In article , Bob Willard wrote: >David Evans wrote: >> In article , >> Tad Winters wrote: >> >>>At one point, I had 2 MicroVAX 2000 systems. Ugh! They took 25 minutes to >>>boot...and yes, that was from disk. >> >> >> I see your uV 2000s and raise you a Pro 350 running 2.9BSD. Now *that* >> was painful; you didn't make many mistakes, given how long it took to load >> vi. >> > >Wimp. I can tell that you never rebooted a PDP-8 from paper tape at 10 cps. True. But that's a pretty different experience to a modern system. The Pro 350, to a first approximation, was pretty much the same as sitting in front of, say, a modern FreeBSD text console. It was just slower. :P That thought always amuses me. -- David Evans dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Research Associate http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ Computer Laboratory, University of Cambridge ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 15:22:39 +0100 From: Stefaan A Eeckels Subject: Re: Wanted: MicroVAX I / VAXstation I owners Message-ID: <20070304152239.45a01bf5.hoendech@ecc.lu> On Sun, 4 Mar 2007 12:16:58 +0000 (UTC) dfevans@bcr10.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) wrote: > The Pro 350, > to a first approximation, was pretty much the same as sitting in > front of, say, a modern FreeBSD text console. It was just > slower. :P That thought always amuses me. It shows how little has happened to OS technology since, let's say, Unix Version 7 and VMS. Similarly, nothing much has happened to UI technology since the original Mac (apart from the networking contribution of X11). Of course we've networked file systems, excellent font display on low-resolution devices, sound, colour etc., but at the core, it's still all the same stuff as 23 and 30 years ago. It's just the hardware that has gotten much cheaper and much faster. -- Stefaan A Eeckels -- "Shun those who say we have eyes in order to see, and instead say we see because we happen to have eyes." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2007 12:53:04 -0500 From: JF Mezei Subject: Re: Wanted: MicroVAX I / VAXstation I owners Message-ID: <8f39a$45eb0792$cef8887a$12281@TEKSAVVY.COM> Stefaan A Eeckels wrote: > Similarly, nothing much has happened to UI technology since the > original Mac (apart from the networking contribution of X11). I'd say that touch screen devices are a major development in terms of the user interface. (even if at the software level, it isn't a big change). ------------------------------ End of INFO-VAX 2007.126 ************************