INFO-VAX	Mon, 19 Nov 2007	Volume 2007 : Issue 634

   Contents:
Re: A Look Ahead to 2008
Re: A Look Ahead to 2008
Re: Filezilla connection
Re: Filezilla connection
ftp.itrc.hp.com ftp server shutdown
Re: Getting Fortran to read CTRL/Z in a file as data
In recognition of quality software
Re: OpenVMS Blades Webcast
Re: Revisited: Wireless (WPA) authentication and OpenVMS
Re: Revisited: Wireless (WPA) authentication and OpenVMS
Re: Wireless. PCMCIA etc.?
Re: X11 in a browser?
Re: X11 in a browser?

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Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 10:17:24 -0500
From: norm.raphael@metso.com
Subject: Re: A Look Ahead to 2008
Message-ID: <OF74C7845B.20151599-ON85257398.0053F148-85257398.0053FD83@metso.com>

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Sic Transit Gloria Mundi.


David J Dachtera <djesys.no@spam.comcast.net> wrote on 11/18/2007 10:26:51 
PM:

> As I mentioned to Sue in another post, 2008 marks the year that my 
current
> (healthcare) site begins to phase out VMS completely. We're moving 
> to IBM+AIX on
> p5-Series.
> 
> On a more personal note, I'll be focusing on non-EDP related pursuits 
with the
> dawn of the new year. I need to find creative ways fund our retirement 
and
> arrange for my wife to open her bead shop. When I do surf the 
EDP-related
> newsgroups, it will likely be on comp.unix.aix.
> 
> I expect to continue my current hosting arrangements which support 
> djesys.com as
> well as my personal pages on Earthlink. So, those will continue to go 
further
> stale but will remain available for at least the years thru 31-Dec-2010.
> 
> I want to thank the many who have helped me with all my technical issues 
over
> the years, express my continued support to those who have benefitted 
from my
> experience, and also apologize for having "gotten into it" those 
> many times when
> ego and emotion won out over common sense.
> 
> A bit early perhaps, wishing all a Wonderful Holiday Season as well as a
> prosperous and health-filled New Year.
> 
> -- 
> David J Dachtera
> dba DJE Systems
> http://www.djesys.com/
> 
> Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page:
> http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/

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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Sic Transit Gloria Mundi.<br>
</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2><tt>David J Dachtera &lt;djesys.no@spam.comcast.net&gt;
wrote on 11/18/2007 10:26:51 PM:<br>
<br>
&gt; As I mentioned to Sue in another post, 2008 marks the year that my
current<br>
&gt; (healthcare) site begins to phase out VMS completely. We're moving
<br>
&gt; to IBM+AIX on<br>
&gt; p5-Series.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; On a more personal note, I'll be focusing on non-EDP related pursuits
with the<br>
&gt; dawn of the new year. I need to find creative ways fund our retirement
and<br>
&gt; arrange for my wife to open her bead shop. When I do surf the EDP-related<br>
&gt; newsgroups, it will likely be on comp.unix.aix.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I expect to continue my current hosting arrangements which support
<br>
&gt; djesys.com as<br>
&gt; well as my personal pages on Earthlink. So, those will continue to
go further<br>
&gt; stale but will remain available for at least the years thru 31-Dec-2010.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I want to thank the many who have helped me with all my technical
issues over<br>
&gt; the years, express my continued support to those who have benefitted
from my<br>
&gt; experience, and also apologize for having &quot;gotten into it&quot;
those <br>
&gt; many times when<br>
&gt; ego and emotion won out over common sense.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; A bit early perhaps, wishing all a Wonderful Holiday Season as well
as a<br>
&gt; prosperous and health-filled New Year.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; -- <br>
&gt; David J Dachtera<br>
&gt; dba DJE Systems<br>
&gt; http://www.djesys.com/<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page:<br>
&gt; http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/<br>
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Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 08:30:32 -0800
From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.company>
Subject: Re: A Look Ahead to 2008
Message-ID: <op.t11r46e1hv4qyg@murphus.hsd1.ca.comcast.net>

On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 19:26:51 -0800, David J Dachtera  
<djesys.no@spam.comcast.net> wrote:

> As I mentioned to Sue in another post, 2008 marks the year that my  
> current
> (healthcare) site begins to phase out VMS completely. We're moving to  
> IBM+AIX on
> p5-Series.
>

Look on the bright side, now you will have a PL/I compiler with built XML
parser (even OO extensions FWIW) from a vendor who doesn't keep changing
architecture:-)

> On a more personal note, I'll be focusing on non-EDP related pursuits  
> with the
> dawn of the new year. I need to find creative ways fund our retirement  
> and
> arrange for my wife to open her bead shop. When I do surf the EDP-related
> newsgroups, it will likely be on comp.unix.aix.
>
> I expect to continue my current hosting arrangements which support  
> djesys.com as
> well as my personal pages on Earthlink. So, those will continue to go  
> further
> stale but will remain available for at least the years thru 31-Dec-2010.
>
> I want to thank the many who have helped me with all my technical issues  
> over
> the years, express my continued support to those who have benefitted  
> from my
> experience, and also apologize for having "gotten into it" those many  
> times when
> ego and emotion won out over common sense.
>
> A bit early perhaps, wishing all a Wonderful Holiday Season as well as a
> prosperous and health-filled New Year.
>



-- 
PL/I for OpenVMS
www.kednos.com

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Date: 19 Nov 2007 07:44:35 -0600
From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)
Subject: Re: Filezilla connection
Message-ID: <4HL1fKjkkPsm@eisner.encompasserve.org>

In article <1194892635_8953@sp12lax.superfeed.net>, Kevin Handy <kth@srv.net> writes:
> Has anyone gotten filezilla 3.0.2.1 (under windows) to talk to
> a VMS system? I've used it on earlier versions of filezilla,
> but cannot get this to work.

   OK, new laptop came in.  Got the latest Friday Nov 16 from Filezilla
   and found that it works fine with "default" host setting, but not
   with "VMS" host setting.  This is against Multinet server.

   I don't think my earlier versions have a host type setting.  If they
   do, I haven't used it.

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Date: 19 Nov 2007 07:46:35 -0600
From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)
Subject: Re: Filezilla connection
Message-ID: <W61jXSLjjIhF@eisner.encompasserve.org>

In article <1cbe3$473f4f11$cef8887a$29441@TEKSAVVY.COM>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> writes:
> VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:
>> This tends to ONLY work if the ftp server uses (presents) unix style file
>> and directory naming syntax.  I have not been able to get my Powerbook to
>> be happy with my "VMS" ftp server.
> 
> Fetch on the MAC has worked with VMS for years.

   Is that still a Classic application, or only the free version I've
   been using?

> And the command line ftp client on the mac also works with VMS ;-)

   But you cannot use the "connect to server", which you can use with
   other FTP servers.  I've tried that with Multinet's FTP server in
   and out of unix-emulation mode.

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Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 13:35:12 +0000 (UTC)
From: david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk
Subject: ftp.itrc.hp.com ftp server shutdown
Message-ID: <fhs3ef$8s3$1@south.jnrs.ja.net>

Any idea why the ftp.itrc.com ftp server is shutdown and how long it is likely
to be down for ?

Alpha2:ftp ftp.itrc.hp.com
500 i3107ffs FTP server shut down -- please try again later.

David Webb
Security team leader
CCSS
Middlesex University

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Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 13:59:15 +0000
From: Tom Wade <nospam@picard.eurokom.ie>
Subject: Re: Getting Fortran to read CTRL/Z in a file as data
Message-ID: <zAg0j.23285$j7.441990@news.indigo.ie>

> Use ERRSNS.
> 
>       INTEGER io-err, sys-err, stat, unit, cond
>       ...
>       CALL ERRSNS ([io-err] [,sys-err] [,stat] [,unit] [,cond])
> 
> After an EOF (real or fake), io-err will be 24.  After a fake EOF,
> sys-err will be 0.  After a real EOF, sys-err will be 98938 (RMS$_EOF)

Excellent - that does the job nicely.  At the end= branch to the Fortran 
READ, I've added the ERRSNS check above to tell the difference.

Many thanks

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Date: 19 Nov 2007 08:13:27 -0600
From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)
Subject: In recognition of quality software
Message-ID: <GgquEb73oZpC@eisner.encompasserve.org>

   Just anecdotal evidence, but I thought it was interesting.

   I've had a number of long time Wintel folks recently tell me about
   getting an Intel Mac, set it up parallel boot Windows, and how great
   it was to be able to switch from MacOS to Windows and back with a
   couple keys.

   A few weeks later, and its "Windows is out the window." for them.

   Sigh; too bad they can't dual-boot VMS.  I'm going to have to find
   time to show them SIMH.

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Date: 19 Nov 2007 06:48:52 -0600
From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen)
Subject: Re: OpenVMS Blades Webcast
Message-ID: <GDpt10svyJPX@eisner.encompasserve.org>

In article <4740FE8E.A82B802F@spam.comcast.net>, David J Dachtera <djesys.no@spam.comcast.net> writes:
> Sue wrote:
>> [snip]
>> The HP group sponsering this is not familiar with the VMS community so
>> they are a little suprised with the amount of people that are
>> registered.  Then she told me, "well they will drop out any way and
>> probably will not ask any questions" [snip]

Suggest her that some people may drop out because the instructions
on how to access her production from a VMS desktop are unclear.

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Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 16:37:51 +0300
From: "Ruslan R. Laishev" <zzLaishev@zzDeltaTelecom.RU-remove.all-zz-to-reply>
Subject: Re: Revisited: Wireless (WPA) authentication and OpenVMS
Message-ID: <474191AF.5000102@zzDeltaTelecom.RU-remove.all-zz-to-reply>

Hello, Michael!


Michael T. Davis wrote:
> In article <1194035086.090601.307230@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com>,
> aaa.vms@gmail.com writes:
> 
>> On Oct 31, 1:59 am, DAV...@ecr6.ohio-state.edu (Michael T. Davis)
>> wrote:
>>> [...]
>> Hello, Michael!
>>
>> Sorry for the long silence... Recently I got WiFi router for
>> playing... I'll return to EAP in a near future.
>>
> 
> 	Are you Ruslan R. Laishev?  I (nor anyone else) has any way of
> knowing.
> 
> 	Can you provide a "ball park" figure for "near future?"  ...Weeks,
> months, ...?
	I hope it will a couple months, sorry.


> 
> Thanks,
> Mike
> --
>                                          |    Systems Specialist: CBE,MSE
>          Michael T. Davis (Mike)         | Departmental Networking/Computing
>  http://www.ecr6.ohio-state.edu/~davism/ |     The Ohio State University
>                                          |     197 Watts, (614) 292-6928
> 

-- 
+ WBR, OpenVMS [Sys|Net] HardWorker ............. Skype: SysMan-One  +
Delta Telecom JSC, IMT-MC-450(CDMA2000) cellular operator
Russia,191119,St.Petersburg,Transportny per. 3 Cel: +7 (812) 716-3222
+http://starlet.deltatelecom.ru ............. Frying on OpenVMS only +

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Date: 19 Nov 2007 16:46:39 GMT
From: DAVISM@ecr6.ohio-state.edu (Michael T. Davis)
Subject: Re: Revisited: Wireless (WPA) authentication and OpenVMS
Message-ID: <fhself$gpb$1@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>

In article <474191AF.5000102@zzDeltaTelecom.RU-remove.all-zz-to-reply>, "Rusla
 R. Laishev" <zzLaishev@zzDeltaTelecom.RU-remove.all-zz-to-reply> writes:

>Hello, Michael!
>
>
>Michael T. Davis wrote:
>> In article <1194035086.090601.307230@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com>,
>> aaa.vms@gmail.com writes:
>>
>>> On Oct 31, 1:59 am, DAV...@ecr6.ohio-state.edu (Michael T. Davis)
>>> wrote:
>>>> [...]
>>> Hello, Michael!
>>>
>>> Sorry for the long silence... Recently I got WiFi router for
>>> playing... I'll return to EAP in a near future.
>>>
>>
>> 	Are you Ruslan R. Laishev?  I (nor anyone else) has any way of
>> knowing.
>>
>> 	Can you provide a "ball park" figure for "near future?"  ...Weeks,
>> months, ...?
>	I hope it will a couple months, sorry.

	Thanks for the response.  I (and perhaps others) look forward to
reading about your progress.

>
>
>>[...]
>
>--
>+ WBR, OpenVMS [Sys|Net] HardWorker ............. Skype: SysMan-One  +
>Delta Telecom JSC, IMT-MC-450(CDMA2000) cellular operator
>Russia,191119,St.Petersburg,Transportny per. 3 Cel: +7 (812) 716-3222
>+http://starlet.deltatelecom.ru ............. Frying on OpenVMS only +


Regards,
Mike
--
                                         |    Systems Specialist: CBE,MSE
         Michael T. Davis (Mike)         | Departmental Networking/Computing
 http://www.ecr6.ohio-state.edu/~davism/ |     The Ohio State University
                                         |     197 Watts, (614) 292-6928

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Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:05:47 +0000 (UTC)
From: david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk
Subject: Re: Wireless. PCMCIA etc.?
Message-ID: <fhru6r$7d1$1@south.jnrs.ja.net>

In article <fn2lRBUKRsAA@eisner.encompasserve.org>, Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) writes:
>In article <wLZ%i.1159$Y54.811@newsfe09.lga>,   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG writes:
>> In article <op.t1zv3nemhv4qyg@murphus.hsd1.ca.comcast.net>, "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.company> writes:
>>>
>>>
>>>Just saw an ad
>>>http://www.synchrotech.com/products/card-rw_06_p111_p222_elan_pcmcia_pc-card_reader_slot.html
>>>for a PCI card to permit plugin of PCMCIA card, which makes me wonder if  
>>>it were possible to
>>>support such a device under VMS and run an 802.11g lan.
>> 
>> Way back when... I was given an AlphaStation 4/133 which was use to run
>> that Redmond outfit's game console.  It has an EISA card which supported
>> two PCMCIA slots.  One of the slots has a modem card.  I was able to get
>> some functionality from the modem but I never went much farther with it.
>> 
>> If you want 802.11g, why not just buy an 802.11g PCI card?  You might be
>> able to get it to be recognized as a device but you'd need some software
>> to configure the SSID and security options you use for your wireless net.
>
>But VMS _has_ modem support (I too have such a card, bought with VMS).
>
>I would think specific 802.11g support would be required in both a
>driver and DECnet to make use of it.  For some people, TCP/IP support
>would also be required for one of the three stacks.

Yes drivers for whatever PCI or PCMCIA wireless card's chipset you wanted to
use would be required. Linux would probably be the best source of information 
to write such drivers together with other wireless control programs (see Linux
wireless-tools, wireless-extensions, wpa_supplicant and 802.1x ). 


TCPIP would pretty much be required since I doubt if any Access Points know
anything about DECNET.


Once that was all in place you could then start porting other wireless programs
such as Kismet.


David Webb
Security team leader
CCSS
Middlesex University

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Date: 19 Nov 2007 07:39:33 -0600
From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)
Subject: Re: X11 in a browser?
Message-ID: <QYlNPsoH+vG$@eisner.encompasserve.org>

In article <5c0ce4aa-c8db-4c1e-97a1-24197ad80838@s6g2000prc.googlegroups.com>, sean@obanion.us writes:
> 
> I was thinking of that, but then some people might say that's why I'm
> working as a contractor and not an employee:
> "Not a team player, are you?"

   I've bailed out of a couple of those teams, with full support from
   my managers.

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Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 16:19:15 +0100
From: "Walter Kuhn" <w.kuhn@ksg.co.at>
Subject: Re: X11 in a browser?
Message-ID: <4741a976$0$7523$91cee783@newsreader01.highway.telekom.at>

Thanks to all,

we will take a closer look at WiredX / WeirdX

Walter Kuhn

<gl@decadence.it> schrieb im Newsbeitrag 
news:473dc368$0$37198$4fafbaef@reader3.news.tin.it...
> Il Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:14:49 +0100, Walter Kuhn ha scritto:
>> 1) there is an existing OpenVMS application with X11 (not Motif) user
>> interface
>> 2) The user has PCs with normal Web Browsers (no additional software)
>> 3) Users wans to use the application (1) completely in the browser (no
>> additional software)
>>
>> Any ideas, hints, suggestions
>>
>> Thank you in advance
>> Walter Kuhn
>
> Hello
>
> Don't know if it exactly what you want, but here it is...
>
> At least some software is needed.
> Or do you want to produce hot water without loss of energy? :)
>
> What you could do, is to use WeirdX http://www.jcraft.com/weirdx/
> It is an implementation of X11 server in 100% pure java, and can be
> used in a web browser.
> It also uses dxpc (Differential X Protocol Compressor) and SSH2 
> forwarding.
>
> But you need the Java JRE and the WeirdX libraries.
>
> You could use Java Web Start to deploy everything necessary to the
> remote clients.
>
> Bye
> gl 

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