INFO-VAX Mon, 03 Mar 2008 Volume 2008 : Issue 125 Contents: Re: Long term archiving of VMS stuff Re: Long term archiving of VMS stuff Re: Long term archiving of VMS stuff Re: Long term archiving of VMS stuff Re: Long term archiving of VMS stuff Re: newgroup decline Re: newgroup decline Re: Noob File-Transfer (License to .com) Question Re: Noob File-Transfer (License to .com) Question Re: Noob File-Transfer (License to .com) Question Re: Noob File-Transfer (License to .com) Question Re: Noob File-Transfer (License to .com) Question Re: Noob File-Transfer (License to .com) Question Re: OpenVMS & Oracle BLOBS Re: OpenVMS Hobbyist ? OT: Roamabout hardware available Re: Samba as a client (was Re: Eunice ) Re: Swapping new disks into a shadow set Weekly Boot Camp Update Re: Weekly Boot Camp Update Re: Wide drives on VAXstation 4000-60 Re: Wide drives on VAXstation 4000-60 Re: [PATHWORKS-32] Vista Support? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 15:21:30 -0500 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?= Subject: Re: Long term archiving of VMS stuff Message-ID: <47cb0c45$0$90268$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote: > In article <47ca3adf$0$90263$14726298@news.sunsite.dk>, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?= writes: >> VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote: >>> This is one of the reasons that I'm reluctant to buy new intel based Macs. >>> Am I or am I not paying Billzebub tax because a new Mac can run Weendoze? >>> Nobody in the Apple camp has been able to clarify this. >> I thought that (charging per windows capable computer sold instead >> of windows sold) was one of the practices found illegal in court ? > > It doesn't matter if it was found to be illegal or not. What _does_ matter > is the perpetuity of the practice. I would assume they stop doing something if it is declared illegal in court. If not because of proper respect for the law then because the risk of not doing so would be too high. Arne ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 15:28:42 -0500 From: JF Mezei Subject: Re: Long term archiving of VMS stuff Message-ID: <47cb0e5d$0$10287$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote: > There were many intel based machines that came with NO Weendoze license; > the Billzebub tax on them was still levied though. When you look at HP, HP build wintel and has a relationship with microsoft because HP is a reseller of Microsoft technology and designs. And the machines HP builds are generic wintel box built to specificcatiosn from intel and microsoft. So when negotiating for bulk purchase of windows licences to put on its wintel boxes, HP probably agrees to pay the tax on all wintel boxes it builds. However, Apple does not resell microsoft products nor does it base its hardware designs on "Wintel" standards. So there would be no need for Apple to agree to pay a Microsoft wintel tax for its machines just because they use the same processor architecture. And ask yourself: Did Digital have to pay the microsoft tax on every alpha machine that was ever sold ? If so, would that prevent you from buying an Alpha ? There are far greater odds of you paying the microsoft tax when you buy of the them IA64 contraptions from HP than when you buy a new Mac from Apple. HP already has the relationship with Microsoft, already pays the tax for the 8086 based machines, and windows also has a native version that runs on IA64, so it woudln't surprise me that HP would pay Microsoft some tax for every IA64 box sold out there. And since what is left of VMS profits go towards HP's marketing of wintel products, spending on VMS probably ends up helping Microsoft far more than spending on Apple products. > Several US auto manufacturers have lost my $ too since they started adver- > tizing the incorporation of M$ in their offerings. Microsoft must have paid Ford a hell of a lot of money to advertise that their cars now run unsafe and distracting Microsoft software. I was tempted to write Ford about how those ads send a message thattheir cars are unsafe since they run microsoft software. ------------------------------ Date: 02 Mar 2008 23:34:11 GMT From: VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG Subject: Re: Long term archiving of VMS stuff Message-ID: <47cb3973$0$5614$607ed4bc@cv.net> In article <47cb0e5d$0$10287$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>, JF Mezei writes: >VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote: >>{...snip...} >> Several US auto manufacturers have lost my $ too since they started adver- >> tizing the incorporation of M$ in their offerings. > >Microsoft must have paid Ford a hell of a lot of money to advertise that >their cars now run unsafe and distracting Microsoft software. I was >tempted to write Ford about how those ads send a message thattheir cars >are unsafe since they run microsoft software. Can you say, Micro$oft Pinto! I'm waiting for the Micro$oft Vega too. -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?" http://tmesis.com/drat.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 00:51:47 +0100 From: "CyberCityNews" Subject: Re: Long term archiving of VMS stuff Message-ID: <47cb3d97$0$89169$157c6196@dreader1.cybercity.dk> Arne Vajhøj wrote: > VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote: >> In article <47ca3adf$0$90263$14726298@news.sunsite.dk>, >> =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?= writes: >>> VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote: >>>> This is one of the reasons that I'm reluctant to buy new intel >>>> based Macs. Am I or am I not paying Billzebub tax because a new >>>> Mac can run Weendoze? Nobody in the Apple camp has been able to >>>> clarify this. >>> I thought that (charging per windows capable computer sold instead >>> of windows sold) was one of the practices found illegal in court ? >> >> It doesn't matter if it was found to be illegal or not. What _does_ >> matter is the perpetuity of the practice. > > I would assume they stop doing something if it is declared illegal > in court. > > If not because of proper respect for the law then because the risk > of not doing so would be too high. > Jesus H. Christ, Arne - sometimes your Danish blue-eyed naivete is just too much. MS has not changed their position or improved their corporate behaviour at all in response to any single jusgement against it - otherwise they would not keep getting hammered by the EU for the same offenses. The officers of MS have no need to change their behaviour because upo until now it has been risk free and highly lucrative. Perjury was not above them, so anti-trust behaviour is no problem either. MS will not change its corporate behaviour until the courts get personal, and officers of the corporation are jailed. From my personal point of view, the sooner the better. As for other businesses, they are just trying to stay in business, so they pick up the soap every day, and hope that eventually the screws will get their act together (sorry for the cellblock metaphors, but they seemed to fit). Remember the Golden Rule! "He who has the gold makes the rules" For the terminally bored, here is my contribution to the "death of a thousand cuts". http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/02/29/microsoft-keeps-trains-running Dr. Dweeb > Arne ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 20:40:35 -0500 From: JF Mezei Subject: Re: Long term archiving of VMS stuff Message-ID: <47cb5768$0$31308$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> CyberCityNews wrote: > For the terminally bored, here is my contribution to the "death of a > thousand cuts". > http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/02/29/microsoft-keeps-trains-running > > Dr. Dweeb Yesterday, I went to the supermarket to pickup just a couple of items. I figured I would risk using those annoying self service checkout machines. Just as I was next in libne to get to a machine, the all seemed to go down. The 2 persons paid to oversee these machines waited a number of minutes ( i guess hoping the machines would come back on the own). They didnt so eventually they had to leave their post and open secured doors below each machine to force a reboot. Windows 2000 logos galore and the machines took forever to reboot. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 23:49:00 +0100 From: "H Vlems" Subject: Re: newgroup decline Message-ID: <47cb2edd$0$1919$bf4948fe@news.tele2.nl> "tadamsmar" schreef in bericht news:4c3207ab-5f96-49a6-880d-a80d7a2afe54@60g2000hsy.googlegroups.com... > Looks like the peak year for posts was 2002. Declining since then. You're absolutely right. And wrong. In terms of content & quality this group is on its way down since, say, 2000? Still a lot better than the other DEC related newsgroups! Hans ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 20:32:33 -0500 From: JF Mezei Subject: Re: newgroup decline Message-ID: <47cb55b7$0$25405$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> H Vlems wrote: > You're absolutely right. And wrong. In terms of content & quality this group > is on its way down since, say, 2000? Remember the days where a new version of VMS brought in a lot of new features and people would be discussing them for a long time ? (early adopters recounting their experience vs those waiting to install). Shortly before 8.3, Guy Peleg who was allowed to play with DCL came here and got a lot of sugggestions that got implemented. But now that there is very little invokvement from VMS engineering, and very few new features in the pipeline, there isn't much to discuss. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 19:58:52 +0100 From: Ralf Folkerts Subject: Re: Noob File-Transfer (License to .com) Question Message-ID: bradhamilton schrieb: Hi Peter and bradhamilton, [...] >> One more question: Once TCP/IP is up and running, can I painles >> transfer the License-File and expect it to be of a valid >> Commandprocedure-File? Or would I still have to perform some kind of >> conversion? >> > > Without knowing details of your particular network configuration, once > you have successfully licensed, installed, and configured TCP/IP, you > *should* be able to do a simple ASCII FTP transfer of the licenses from > your system where you received the email, to your VMS system. Once the > transfer has completed, you *should* be able to @ > to register the licenses. Once you have successfully registered the > licenses, a simple $license load will load the licenses, and you're on > your way! great! Thanks a lot! Works like a charm! :-) After Installation of all the UCX-Licenses Configuration and Startup works 1a. I just transferred the License-File over in ASCII Mode -- and it can be executed as I hoped! Now it's time for the OpenVMS System Management Book to arrive (I only have a old "User oriented" Book from 1993, which of course doesn't cover Questions like Installation, Configuration etc...). Cheers and thanks again! _ralf_ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 15:32:43 -0500 From: JF Mezei Subject: Re: Noob File-Transfer (License to .com) Question Message-ID: <47cb0f4c$0$10287$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> Ralf Folkerts wrote: > One more question: Once TCP/IP is up and running, can I painles transfer > the License-File and expect it to be of a valid Commandprocedure-File? > Or would I still have to perform some kind of conversion? If your use FTP to transfer the files, and you make sure the SET TYPE ASCII then yes, the file transfers will create native VMS text files that should execute without problem. BTW, you could have installed decwindows on the machine and then targetted applications to be displayed on a PC running X terminal software. This would give you a much more workable system with DECTERM giving you cut/paste etc for the terminal windows. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 15:42:21 -0500 From: JF Mezei Subject: Re: Noob File-Transfer (License to .com) Question Message-ID: <47cb118f$0$1472$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> Ralf Folkerts wrote: > Now it's time for the OpenVMS System Management Book to arrive (I only > have a old "User oriented" Book from 1993, which of course doesn't cover > Questions like Installation, Configuration etc...). http://www.hp.com/go/vms and at the bottom, you can access the VMS documentation in either HTML or PDF formats. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 21:50:10 GMT From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jan-Erik_S=F6derholm?= Subject: Re: Noob File-Transfer (License to .com) Question Message-ID: > From: Ralf Folkerts > >> No Problem, I obtained the PAKs for the Layered Products from >> openvmshobbyist, too. >> To make my live easier I wanted to Transfer the License, which looks >> like a Command procedure, as such to the Alpha. First time (before TCP/IP is licensed and running) I simply cut-n-paste the licenses from the mail to an open emulator windows running as console on a COM port. Just "$ CREATE lic.com " and paste the mail. When the paste has finished, just to close the file and @lic. That's is. NB, watch out for long/truncated/split lines ! One might have to edit the file a little... Or, you can just cut-n-paste each LICENSE REGISTER command one at a time into a $-prompt. Jan-Erik. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 15:57:11 -0800 From: "Tom Linden" Subject: Re: Noob File-Transfer (License to .com) Question Message-ID: On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 09:30:56 -0800, Ralf Folkerts wrote: > Steven M. Schweda schrieb: > > Hi Steven, > > [...] >> It'd probably be easier to put the UCX PAK in manually (and get TCPIP >> (the new name) configured) than it would be to do all the DIRE /FULL >> and/or DUMP /BYTE tasks to see what happened to the useful bytes, and >> then do the CONVERT and/or SET FILE /ATTRIBUTES tasks to straighten them >> out again. > > thanks for that hint! I'll give it a try. > > One more question: Once TCP/IP is up and running, can I painles transfer > the License-File and expect it to be of a valid Commandprocedure-File? > Or would I still have to perform some kind of conversion? > > Cheers, > _ralf_ The following script is your friend if you are transferring files through other systems like windows ftp://kednos.com/pub/reset_backup_saveset_attributes.txt -- PL/I for OpenVMS www.kednos.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 22:17:52 -0600 From: Michael Austin Subject: Re: Noob File-Transfer (License to .com) Question Message-ID: Ralf Folkerts wrote: > Hi, > > I have a Problem with the Transfer of a Hobbyist-License "as" > Commandprocedure-File to a OpenVMS 8.3 Machine. First I might mention > that my Origins are in the /370 and Unix-World. However, I used to work > on VMS for a while, but never became a good friend with VMS during that > time -- and now wanted to become one using a AlphaStation 255 @home. > > I Installed the Machine from the Hobbyist CD, using all Defaults except > for not installing DecWindows (the machine has a Matrox Graka). I also > entered the License-Data for the OpenVMS during Install. > > However, when trying to configure TCP/IP the Configure-Tool also wanted > to activate DecNet which seems to require another License than the > Base-System, so I cannot start TCP/IP (for sure the Experts can, but > unfortunately not me). > > No Problem, I obtained the PAKs for the Layered Products from > openvmshobbyist, too. > > To make my live easier I wanted to Transfer the License, which looks > like a Command procedure, as such to the Alpha. > > However, I did not manage to get it running :-( > > I Googled and searched the VMS-FAQ but didn't find a hint :-( > > What I did: I saved the License-Mail, removed the Headers etc. so that > only a Text-File containg the License-Info was left. As I work on Linux > I also converted the File to DOS-Formatm put both, the Unix- and the > DOS-Format into a iso-FS, burned that on CD and mounted on VMS. > > However, the file seems not to be of the correct Format. So I tried > exchange, convert and set file/attr (setting stream_lf and stream_cr) > but nothing really solved my Problem :-( > > I'm sure it's just a very simple thing to make a Unix- or DOS-Textfile a > workable VMS-Commandprocedure-File -- however, I didn't find out, how :-( > > When trying to execute the DOS-File(s) I get the error: > > %DCL-W-IVVERB, unrecognized command verb - check validity and spelling > \ > $\ > %DCL-W-IVVERB, unrecognized command verb - check validity and spelling > \ > $\ > > Which I think is caused by the CR? I managed to get a Unix-File working > but it stops > > $ @LICENSE_UNIX_1.LIS > %LICENSE-F-BADCHK, checksum does not validate for X500-DIRECTORY-SERVER > > However, in ed the Checksum does look exactly as it does in the EMail I > got (so, probably there is some bad character after the Checksum, too? > > So, it would be great if someone could point me to a place where I can > find how to "correctly" get the License-Document into an executable File > (please note that I have to transfer using a CDROM; I wanted to FTP the > stuff as Text but as I cannot start TCP/IP w/o the licenses being > installed I have a recursion-Problem here. > > MTIA! > Cheers, > _ralf_ $HELP If you can spell HELP - things in VMS are somewhat intuitive (show for "showing things" set for "setting things" etc.. ) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 15:14:15 -0500 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?= Subject: Re: OpenVMS & Oracle BLOBS Message-ID: <47cb0a92$0$90268$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote: > In article <47ca9863$0$25982$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>, "Guy Peleg" writes: >> "rcyoung" wrote in message >> news:e593d8a7-4183-4a12-802a-7231ec731044@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com... >>> Does anyone have some examples of extracting jpg, doc,txt files from >>> an Oracle BLOB field under OpenVMS using ProC? >>> >>> I have put in some requests re this over in the Oracle groups, but >>> 99.999% of the people >>> there are Unixers/Windowers and many things do not apply ( or other >>> things like setting logicals DO!) to OpenVMS! >>> >>> bob y >> http://ora-middleware.blogspot.com/2007/09/extract-blob-into-files.html >> >> What hear does not work on VMS? > > Hear on VMS? Is there now a supported sound card? I would guess on: s/hear/here/w would resolve the question. Arne ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 15:41:12 -0500 From: JF Mezei Subject: Re: OpenVMS Hobbyist ? Message-ID: <47cb114c$0$1472$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOeGER wrote: > > So, how to reach the OpenVMS Hobbyist pages nowadays? Does anybody know > the current/real IP addresses (in case of only the BIND/DNS server is down)? I always go through www.montagar.com and from there click on the hobbyist button. However, I also have a problem. Thereare 2 designated DNS servers for the hobbyist domain: ns.montagar.com and ns2.tditx.com First one is reacheable but responds with a negative answer. Second one is down. I assume Mr Cathey is doing some work. Or perhaps VMS is to be totally shutdown tomorrow, including the hobbyist programme :-) :-) :-) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 16:55:20 -0800 (PST) From: Rich Jordan Subject: OT: Roamabout hardware available Message-ID: All my at-home antique wireless has been retired. We're running our "Home Area Network" over powerline networking now. Anyone have a use for some Roamabout equipment with the 915MHz (2Mbps) cards? They can be run as point to point bridges and you're not likely to get snooped running equipment this old even though it doesn't do encryption. THESE ARE NOT 802.11 COMPATIBLE! I just thought I'd ask before sending it to the recycler. Several access points with cards/antennas, plus some SolecTek labeled DEC built pieces I bought as spares but never needed to use. All believed operational ("removed from working environment") but some (the Solecteks) have never been tested. Email me for info. Cheap (think cost of shipping) but only as a bundle. Rich ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 05:31:36 GMT From: Tad Winters Subject: Re: Samba as a client (was Re: Eunice ) Message-ID: "John E. Malmberg" wrote in news:SOpyj.4662$TT4.943@attbi_s22: > Tad Winters wrote: >> "John E. Malmberg" wrote in >> news:vMiyj.57067$yE1.13177@attbi_s21: >>> It is documented at the samba.org website. >>> >>> The smbmount program exists only for LINUX and BSD UNIX variants. >>> The smbmount program requires changes to the internals of the >>> platforms, and the developers of smbmount do not have access to >>> those. >> >> I'm not real clear on what you're saying. On and old version of >> Samba, maybe 1.7.9 on VMS, I was able to use smbmount to a Windows >> 2000 server share and read and write files. It broke with Windows >> 2003 server. > > I think you were referring to smbclient, which is a command line > utility to transfer files from Microsoft Windows and samba servers > to a host. Yes, that's right. It's been so long since I used it, I'd forgotten the name. [..snip..] > > -John > wb8tyw@qsl.network > Personal Opinion Only > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 16:12:33 -0800 (PST) From: tadamsmar Subject: Re: Swapping new disks into a shadow set Message-ID: On Feb 29, 6:24=A0pm, AEF wrote: > On Feb 29, 5:03 pm, tadamsmar wrote: > > > > > > > I will be replacing the 2 physical disk drives in a shadow set > > shortly. > > > The easiest way I can think of is to: > > > 1. =A0Dismount dka100: > > 2. =A0Power down > > 3. =A0Swap out dka100: > > 4. =A0Reboot on dka0: > > 5. =A0Merge the shadow set > > 6. =A0Dismount dka0: > > 7. =A0Power down > > 8. =A0Swap out dka0: > > 9. =A0Reboot on dka100: > > 10. =A0Merge the shadow set > > > Is there a better way? > > Are you doing minimum boots? Otherwise won't your startup procedure > attempt to mount both disks in the shadow set? Or fail to mount either > depending on your command? > > Be sure not to include MOUNT commands for your system disk shadow set > (if you have one) in your startup procedures. Otherwise you risk > overwriting current data! (See the Vol. Shad. manual for the actual > possible scenario.) > > AEF- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - I don't think any disks are added to the shadow set at startup. But I probably should make a tape image before I start this just for safety. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 19:05:56 -0800 (PST) From: Sue Subject: Weekly Boot Camp Update Message-ID: <4257f316-166b-4e34-a44c-5987c830bc37@o77g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> Dear VMS Community, Great news! But first, my apologies for the delay, I was out sick last week. On behalf of the Boot Camp Core Team, I am happy to send you this OpenVMS Boot Camp update. Things are coming along very well. This is the final week that the session call for participation (CFP) in Engineering will be open. The majority of the Keynotes are in place which I KNOW you will enjoy. Once again this will be a very full agenda - Monday, Tuesday and Thursday evenings are also occupied. Last week Roxanne sent out the call for participation for the Partners roundhouse was distributed and we have excellent response. The roundhouse is one of the Boot Camp's outstanding evening programs (Tuesday evening). Several folks have asked about scholarships, I will let you know when I hear about partners offering scholarships. OpenVMS Engineering will be offering several tuition scholarships. 2 Youth Scholarships, hardship scholarship and testimonial scholarships (Public HP testimonial about your company and VMS on Integrity, we do the work). Total of 5 Here is the boot camp URL http://www.hp.com/go/openvms/bootcamp So how is registration going? We are 23% full with 155 remaining seats. Aprox % of new attendees 50% Countries (no particular order) Sweden 10 Switzerland 3 UK - England 3 UK - Ireland 1 Germany 4 Barbados 1 Netherlands 2 America - 16 Warm regards as always, Sue ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 23:08:37 -0500 From: JF Mezei Subject: Re: Weekly Boot Camp Update Message-ID: <47cb7a15$0$31282$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> Sue wrote: > But first, my apologies for the delay, I was out sick last week. $SET TIME="TODAY-7-00:00:00" $MAIL SYS$INPUT: Sue.Skoketski /SUBJECT="Get Well Soon" Dear Sue, I have just learned that you are feeling under the weather, Please get better soon and the whole VMS community wishes you a quick and complete recovery. $ $EXIT ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 23:41:41 +0100 From: "H Vlems" Subject: Re: Wide drives on VAXstation 4000-60 Message-ID: <47cb2d25$0$2270$bf4948fe@news.tele2.nl> "Stanley F. Quayle" schreef in bericht news:47C91FD8.2679.1948192D@infovax.stanq.com... > On 29 Feb 2008 at 0:23, Chris Scheers wrote: >> I have a need to set up a VAX test environment with 4GB drives. >> [...] [hardware pain omitted] >> Can anyone provide a suggestion on how to get this to work? Is there >> some switch setting I am missing? > > You could "switch" to an emulation solution and ditch all the hardware... > > #include > > --Stan Quayle > Quayle Consulting Inc. > > ---------- > Stanley F. Quayle, P.E. N8SQ Toll free: 1-888-I-LUV-VAX > 8572 North Spring Ct., Pickerington, OH 43147 USA > stan-at-stanq-dot-com http://www.stanq.com/charon-vax.html > "OpenVMS, when downtime is not an option" > > Don't you think this might annoy more than it would actually help? Hans ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 15:20:56 -0800 (PST) From: FrankS Subject: Re: Wide drives on VAXstation 4000-60 Message-ID: <9c2b5ecb-6dbe-4ad2-802e-c929e01aea96@13g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> On Feb 29, 1:23=A0am, Chris Scheers wrote: > Can anyone provide a suggestion on how to get this to work? =A0Is there > some switch setting I am missing? I remember there was this DWZZA thing, but I never used one. I believe it will allow you to connect the VS4000 to a BA356 without the BA35X. More info here: http://vt100.net/mirror/mds-199909/cd3/storage/dwzzauga.pdf Then, you'd also have to go out and find one. Perhaps eBay or Island? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 21:48:02 +0100 From: Marc Van Dyck Subject: Re: [PATHWORKS-32] Vista Support? Message-ID: Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOeGER explained on 2/03/2008 : > Currently, one can read on the web. > > There are no plans to add new functionality to the PATHWORKS 32 > product. This would include support for new versions of the > Microsoft Windows operating system. Not all new technologies > operate with PATHWORKS 32 in all environments. Customers refreshing > their Windows environments to the latest PC desktop that include > Intelligent Network Interface Controllers (NICS), hyper-threading, > and support for plug-and-play hardware devices could experience > server crashes and system instability. In such complex environments, > HP will make its best effort to provide support but cannot guarantee > a resolution in all cases. > > Does anyone know, if HP's "best effort" made eXcursion working (supported) > on M$ Vista already (or when this will/could happen)? > > And no, I haven't tried myself already, I've no M$ Vista so far... > > TIA Have been able to install it under Vista Ultimate Edition, along with powerterm 525, and start them up both. Not really tested them because I need to work a little bit on my VAX before it's up and running again, but chances look good... -- Marc Van Dyck ------------------------------ End of INFO-VAX 2008.125 ************************