INFO-VAX	Thu, 20 Mar 2008	Volume 2008 : Issue 160

   Contents:
RE: A more FLEXible COV
Bracknell (Berkshire, UK) and VMS
Re: Bracknell (Berkshire, UK) and VMS
Re: Bracknell (Berkshire, UK) and VMS
Re: Bracknell (Berkshire, UK) and VMS
Re: Decserver 200 - Not getting its image loaded
Re: Decserver 200 - Not getting its image loaded
Re: Decserver 200 - Not getting its image loaded
Re: Decserver 200 - Not getting its image loaded
Re: Decserver 200 - Not getting its image loaded
Re: Decserver 200 - Not getting its image loaded
Re: Decserver 200 - Not getting its image loaded
Re: Decserver 200 - Not getting its image loaded
Re: Divining the full pathname of a file, all logicals translated
Re: Divining the full pathname of a file, all logicals translated
Re: Divining the full pathname of a file, all logicals translated
Re: Divining the full pathname of a file, all logicals translated
Re: Divining the full pathname of a file, all logicals translated
RE: Divining the full pathname of a file, all logicals translated
Re: Divining the full pathname of a file, all logicals translated
Follow the (Job Search) Rules!
Follow the (Job Search) Rules!
Follow the (Job Search) Rules!
Re: Hobbyist Licenses
Re: Hobbyist Licenses
Please critique my backup practices
Re: Please critique my backup practices
Re: Please critique my backup practices
Re: VMS Mail translates incoming tilde character into a dollar sign.
Re: VMS Mail translates incoming tilde character into a dollar sign.
Re: VMS Mail translates incoming tilde character into a dollar sign.
Re: VMS Mail translates incoming tilde character into a dollar sign.
Re: VMS Mail translates incoming tilde character into a dollar sign.
Re: VMS Mail translates incoming tilde character into a dollar sign.
Re: VMS Mail translates incoming tilde character into a dollar sign.
What sysgen param needs to be changed?
Re: What sysgen param needs to be changed?
Re: What sysgen param needs to be changed?
Re: What sysgen param needs to be changed?
RE: What sysgen param needs to be changed?
RE: What sysgen param needs to be changed?

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Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 10:38:17 -0400
From: "Peter Weaver" <info-vax@weaverconsulting.ca>
Subject: RE: A more FLEXible COV
Message-ID: <042b01c88a98$09bd6b90$2802a8c0@CHARONLAP>

> > The
> > DataGrid is limited to 5000 rows though so that is a bit of 
> a problem,
> 
> Stuffed if I know why that is; any ideas? It's certainly 
> ugly. (Although given the historically bollocks ACMS 
> workspace-size restrictions, and my experiences with many 
> DECforms applications, I don't think the VMS user-base will 
> feel deprived :-)
> 
> I assume it's a DataGrid-specific limit and not a 
> DataProvider or ArrayCollection limit? A pie-chart can 
> reference millions of rows, but a datagrid is stuck at 5K?

You got me to go back and take another look at
http://livedocs.adobe.com/flex/3/langref/index.html, now that I
have it looks like the "Maximum Size: 5000 by 5000" really means
5000 pixels rather than row and columns. 

> With the FABridge you can always stick to JavaScript DOM 
> where there is no such limit on <select> list <options>. (But 
> it's a real performance pain to tear-down a big array unless 
> you use node-cloning. See the Tier3 Queue Lookup example for
more.)
> 
> > but
> > it is fun playing with it when I have a few minutes here and
a few 
> > minutes
> 
> Fun for playing, but you don't see it as a viable tool for 
> VMS GUI delivery because. . . Or you recommend product XYZ
instead?

"Playing" because my business is more System Management than
programming. I occasionally help maintain code, but it has been a
long time since I built anything from scratch. That is why I am
looking at building something to look at the ACCOUNTNG.DAT
records, if that works out I may do something to look at the
Audit File. Also playing just because it is fun to show people
that these things do work with VMS. When I first setup my website
one of my customers who had been working with VMS for 23 years
said "This can't be on VMS, it has pictures and colours." I still
get people downloading my DCL/SVG Bar Graph and Pie Chart stuff
that I posted here almost 2 years ago, I imagine people are
downloading it just to show someone else that it is possible.

Peter Weaver
www.weaverconsulting.ca
CHARON-VAX CHARON-AXP DataStream Reflection PreciseMail HP
Commercial Hardware 

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Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 04:03:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: Didier_Toulouse <didier.morandi@freesurf.fr>
Subject: Bracknell (Berkshire, UK) and VMS
Message-ID: <383964bd-9974-410c-b739-6e3030a1cd9b@n75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>

Hi all,

Someone knows who does what with VMS in Bracknell, Berkshire (UK) ?
Looks like they are looking for plenty of VMS specialists these days.

Thanks,

Didier

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Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 11:29:14 +0000
From: "R.A.Omond" <Roy.Omond@BlueBubble.UK.Com>
Subject: Re: Bracknell (Berkshire, UK) and VMS
Message-ID: <frthqb$kjt$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk>

Didier_Toulouse wrote:
> 
> Someone knows who does what with VMS in Bracknell, Berkshire (UK) ?
> Looks like they are looking for plenty of VMS specialists these days.

HP closed down DECpark in Reading some time ago.  They "consolidated"
to their Bracknell site, so I'm guessing that all the VMS people were
moved to there.

Where are you seeing that they are looking for VMS specialists ?

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Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 09:37:44 -0700 (PDT)
From: IanMiller <gxys@uk2.net>
Subject: Re: Bracknell (Berkshire, UK) and VMS
Message-ID: <551107f2-75b5-4e3b-9316-96e28408c22a@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com>

Big HP building at Bracknell (Amen Corner) just near the ski slope and
the ice rink.

VMS support are there (as much as they are anyone place).

Where are these VMS oppourtinities advertised?

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Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:53:46 GMT
From: Antonio Carlini <arcarlini@iee.org>
Subject: Re: Bracknell (Berkshire, UK) and VMS
Message-ID: <Xns9A67ABEB955D7arcarliniONieeorg@62.253.170.163>

IanMiller <gxys@uk2.net> wrote in news:551107f2-75b5-4e3b-9316-
96e28408c22a@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com:

> Big HP building at Bracknell (Amen Corner) just near the ski slope and
> the ice rink.
> 
> VMS support are there (as much as they are anyone place).
> 
> Where are these VMS oppourtinities advertised?

I pass it every day on the way to work. Didn't realise
that support lived there now. I've not seen any advertising
either.

Antonio

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Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 23:15:22 -0700 (PDT)
From: geoffrey.ive@eskom.co.za
Subject: Re: Decserver 200 - Not getting its image loaded
Message-ID: <efaece1f-df0c-4123-84f0-2641a0cf3e70@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>

On Mar 19, 10:12 pm, koeh...@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob
Koehler) wrote:
> In article <47E106CD.20...@comcast.net>, "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilber...@comcast.net> writes:
>
>
>
> > I had a problem once with a DECServer 200 that wouldn't boot.  They will
> > boot using either DECnet/MOP or TCP/IP bootp.
>
>    I've never seen any IP support on something as old as a 200.  Are
>    you sure it wasn't a later model?

It's defnantly a Decserver 200, I have 3 VAX machines running decnet 4
and all 3 are configured to download to the Decservers.
Thanks
Geoff

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Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 23:23:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: geoffrey.ive@eskom.co.za
Subject: Re: Decserver 200 - Not getting its image loaded
Message-ID: <63810f4c-2477-4e2c-bb92-eecab8ffec25@59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>

On Mar 19, 9:37 pm, Uusim=E4ki <uusimaki@withouthis_exdecfinland.org>
wrote:
> geoffrey....@eskom.co.za wrote:
> > Hi - My Decserver 200's are not getting there image loaded from Vax
> > Server. The Decservers carry on working but if I power one off its
> > image is not loaded. I have not changed any parameters in the
> > dsvconfig file. Any suggestions?
> > Geoff
>
> Has there been any modifications of the LAN? New (routing) switches
> installed? I recommend you to do like JF suggested: log in to the VMS
> machine and issue the command REPLY/ENABLE then power cycle a DECserver
> 200 and look at the OPCOM messages you get on your terminal. If you can
> see messages about the MOP load requests, then the LAN doesn't affect
> the loading for that DECserver. If everything works normally, you should
> also see when the loading was completed.
>
> It would be good to look what is happening with the DECserver at the
> same time. The port #1 is the "console" port by default. Connect a
> terminal to it and then power cycle the DECserver and see what messages
> you get. There you should see that the DECserver is trying to load its
> software.
>
> By following the VMS messages on both the VMS server and the DECserver
> you should find out where the problem is.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Regards,
>
> Kari

Thanks for your help, the decserver is telling me  901>Initializing
decserver and its address and then a 902>waiting for image load and
the a 912>load failure timeout
Geoff

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Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 00:49:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: geoffrey.ive@eskom.co.za
Subject: Re: Decserver 200 - Not getting its image loaded
Message-ID: <681f01ef-e3e1-4795-8bda-bf3c950a8212@q78g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>

On Mar 19, 9:37 pm, Uusim=E4ki <uusimaki@withouthis_exdecfinland.org>
wrote:
> geoffrey....@eskom.co.za wrote:
> > Hi - My Decserver 200's are not getting there image loaded from Vax
> > Server. The Decservers carry on working but if I power one off its
> > image is not loaded. I have not changed any parameters in the
> > dsvconfig file. Any suggestions?
> > Geoff
>
> Has there been any modifications of the LAN? New (routing) switches
> installed? I recommend you to do like JF suggested: log in to the VMS
> machine and issue the command REPLY/ENABLE then power cycle a DECserver
> 200 and look at the OPCOM messages you get on your terminal. If you can
> see messages about the MOP load requests, then the LAN doesn't affect
> the loading for that DECserver. If everything works normally, you should
> also see when the loading was completed.
>
> It would be good to look what is happening with the DECserver at the
> same time. The port #1 is the "console" port by default. Connect a
> terminal to it and then power cycle the DECserver and see what messages
> you get. There you should see that the DECserver is trying to load its
> software.
>
> By following the VMS messages on both the VMS server and the DECserver
> you should find out where the problem is.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Regards,
>
> Kari

Hi all
Thanks very much for all your help, we've all solved the problem, I
logged into a working Decserver and found the load host which was a
vax workstation and not one of the 3 vax servers. After powering up
this workstation the image was downloaded. I'll still investigate why
the image does not get downloaded from the vax servers.
Thanks again
Geoff

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Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 02:51:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: Volker Halle <volker_halle@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Decserver 200 - Not getting its image loaded
Message-ID: <11d8da07-b461-4756-83cf-b07f01ad6b73@c65g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>

Geoff,

from one of the VAXes, which are supposed to download the DECserver,
try:

$ MC NCP SHOW NODE decserver-name CHAR ! should show MAC address of
DECserver
$ MC NCP CONNECT NODE decserver-name

If this works, you'll get the access prompt of the DECserver: #
Log in or terminate the connection with CTRL-D
If this works, you know that the MOP protocol gets through to the
DECserver via the LAN.

If this fails, double-check the MAC address and make sure the local
DECnet circuit is set to SERVICE ENABLED. Try the same operation from
the VAXstation, which successfully loaded the server. If it works from
the VAXstation, but fails from the other VAX, there may be a problem
with the network configuration. The MOP protocol may not be passed
through whatever components are in the LAN between the DECserver and
the other VAX.

Volker.

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Date: 20 Mar 2008 10:35:32 GMT
From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG
Subject: Re: Decserver 200 - Not getting its image loaded
Message-ID: <47e23df3$0$5651$607ed4bc@cv.net>

In article <681f01ef-e3e1-4795-8bda-bf3c950a8212@q78g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>, geoffrey.ive@eskom.co.za writes:
>On Mar 19, 9:37 pm, Uusim=E4ki <uusimaki@withouthis_exdecfinland.org>
>wrote:
>> geoffrey....@eskom.co.za wrote:
>> > Hi - My Decserver 200's are not getting there image loaded from Vax
>> > Server. The Decservers carry on working but if I power one off its
>> > image is not loaded. I have not changed any parameters in the
>> > dsvconfig file. Any suggestions?
>> > Geoff
>>
>> Has there been any modifications of the LAN? New (routing) switches
>> installed? I recommend you to do like JF suggested: log in to the VMS
>> machine and issue the command REPLY/ENABLE then power cycle a DECserver
>> 200 and look at the OPCOM messages you get on your terminal. If you can
>> see messages about the MOP load requests, then the LAN doesn't affect
>> the loading for that DECserver. If everything works normally, you should
>> also see when the loading was completed.
>>
>> It would be good to look what is happening with the DECserver at the
>> same time. The port #1 is the "console" port by default. Connect a
>> terminal to it and then power cycle the DECserver and see what messages
>> you get. There you should see that the DECserver is trying to load its
>> software.
>>
>> By following the VMS messages on both the VMS server and the DECserver
>> you should find out where the problem is.
>>
>> Good luck.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Kari
>
>Hi all
>Thanks very much for all your help, we've all solved the problem, I
>logged into a working Decserver and found the load host which was a
>vax workstation and not one of the 3 vax servers. After powering up
>this workstation the image was downloaded. I'll still investigate why
>the image does not get downloaded from the vax servers.
>Thanks again
>Geoff

Are the DECservers defined in NCP? ...with the proper addresses?  Does 
the download image exist?

-- 
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  "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?" 

http://tmesis.com/drat.html

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Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 07:49:52 -0400
From: "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Decserver 200 - Not getting its image loaded
Message-ID: <47E24F60.2000000@comcast.net>

geoffrey.ive@eskom.co.za wrote:
> On Mar 19, 9:37 pm, Uusimäki <uusimaki@withouthis_exdecfinland.org>
> wrote:
> 
>>geoffrey....@eskom.co.za wrote:
>>
>>>Hi - My Decserver 200's are not getting there image loaded from Vax
>>>Server. The Decservers carry on working but if I power one off its
>>>image is not loaded. I have not changed any parameters in the
>>>dsvconfig file. Any suggestions?
>>>Geoff
>>
>>Has there been any modifications of the LAN? New (routing) switches
>>installed? I recommend you to do like JF suggested: log in to the VMS
>>machine and issue the command REPLY/ENABLE then power cycle a DECserver
>>200 and look at the OPCOM messages you get on your terminal. If you can
>>see messages about the MOP load requests, then the LAN doesn't affect
>>the loading for that DECserver. If everything works normally, you should
>>also see when the loading was completed.
>>
>>It would be good to look what is happening with the DECserver at the
>>same time. The port #1 is the "console" port by default. Connect a
>>terminal to it and then power cycle the DECserver and see what messages
>>you get. There you should see that the DECserver is trying to load its
>>software.
>>
>>By following the VMS messages on both the VMS server and the DECserver
>>you should find out where the problem is.
>>
>>Good luck.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Kari
> 
> 
> Hi all
> Thanks very much for all your help, we've all solved the problem, I
> logged into a working Decserver and found the load host which was a
> vax workstation and not one of the 3 vax servers. After powering up
> this workstation the image was downloaded. I'll still investigate why
> the image does not get downloaded from the vax servers.
> Thanks again
> Geoff

My memory grows DIMM but I think that VMS machines respond to boot 
requests from terminal servers ONLY when they are configured to do so.
The DECserver load image must be available and you have to tell your 
system to respond to boot requests.  It's a "do it once and forget it" 
thing and the last time I did it was LONG ago!

Go thou and RTFM.  When you figure it out, you might post either the 
solution, where you found the documentation, or both.

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Date: 20 Mar 2008 08:47:09 -0600
From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)
Subject: Re: Decserver 200 - Not getting its image loaded
Message-ID: <dk7XILC2UGBX@eisner.encompasserve.org>

In article <efaece1f-df0c-4123-84f0-2641a0cf3e70@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, geoffrey.ive@eskom.co.za writes:
> 
> It's defnantly a Decserver 200, I have 3 VAX machines running decnet 4
> and all 3 are configured to download to the Decservers.
> Thanks
> Geoff

   The default configuration for DECnet Phase IV on VMS is that every
   VMS systenm that sees a MOP request will report something to OPCOM,
   whether that VMS system can honor the request or not.

   You should be able to check your consoles, or your OPERATOR.LOG when
   you power on the DECserver to see which, if any, systems are seeing
   the MOP requests and what they are doing in response.  That's a good 
   place to start from.

   (I had to turn that off on a lot of systems beause the customer
   hired "computer operators" fresh off the boat and they'd report
   all kinds of unrelated problems as being caused by the VMS systems
   which didn't honor all MOP requests they saw on the LAN.  "ERROR" and
   "FAILURE" being two of the English words they knew.)

   Another quick check is to see if you can connect an AUI ethernet on
   the DECserver to a 10BT wire with one of those little transceivers
   with link and traffic lights.

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Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 12:55:17 GMT
From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jan-Erik_S=F6derholm?=
Subject: Re: Decserver 200 - Not getting its image loaded
Message-ID: <V8tEj.5099$R_4.4465@newsb.telia.net>

> In article <efaece1f-df0c-4123-84f0-2641a0cf3e70@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, geoffrey.ive@eskom.co.za writes:
>> It's defnantly a Decserver 200, I have 3 VAX machines running decnet 4
>> and all 3 are configured to download to the Decservers.
>> Thanks
>> Geoff

Maybe. But here on c.o.v it's not enought to just *say* so.
*Show us* that it's actualy the case. Hard proof (output)
from NCP commands is what counts.

Jan-Erik.

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Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 04:58:25 -0700
From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.company>
Subject: Re: Divining the full pathname of a file, all logicals translated
Message-ID: <op.t8bcvncghv4qyg@murphus.hsd1.ca.comcast.net>

On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:41:40 -0700, Rich Jordan <jordan@ccs4vms.com> wrote:

> I'm looking at ways to generate the full "low level" pathname to a
> file with no logicals, concealed, terminal, or otherwise involved, and
> in standard format.

This might help

http://www.kednos.com/pli_examples/0091550B-2BACEF00-1C01E7.HTML

-- 
PL/I for OpenVMS
www.kednos.com

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Date: 20 Mar 2008 09:05:20 -0600
From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)
Subject: Re: Divining the full pathname of a file, all logicals translated
Message-ID: <yvGQCNccToNs@eisner.encompasserve.org>

In article <Xns9A66EE72E7524arcarliniONieeorg@80.5.182.99>, Antonio Carlini <arcarlini@iee.org> writes:
> 
> I don't recall if it's possible to get more than one ".]["
> sequence in a string ... if it is then you may need a loop.

   No, but it is legititmate to have ".><", ".>[", or ".]<" at that
   location unless you're sure that the string has been returned from
   one of VMS' parsers.  (File names can be entered with <> for
   directory delimiters, but they are always translated to [] during
   parsing.)

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Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 07:40:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: Rich Jordan <jordan@ccs4vms.com>
Subject: Re: Divining the full pathname of a file, all logicals translated
Message-ID: <04937b98-e42c-48c0-a18c-0e6b7526f386@k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com>

On Mar 19, 6:15 pm, "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilber...@comcast.net>
wrote:
> Rich Jordan wrote:
> > I'm looking at ways to generate the full "low level" pathname to a
> > file with no logicals, concealed, terminal, or otherwise involved, and
> > in standard format.
>
> > So far the way that seems to work closest to what I need using only
> > VMS provided tools follows.  THis is (currently) a DCL command
> > procedure searching multiple directories (using F$SEARCH with a
> > wildcard, and generally with a logical in the search term):
>
> >      - F$SEARCH returns the filename.
> >          - The return from F$SEARCH will already have translated non-
> > terminal logicals; for example in the SYSTEM account searching for SYS
> > $LOGIN:LOGIN.COM returns SYS$COMMON:[SYSMGR]LOGIN.COM;12
>
> >      - Take the output of F$SEARCH and feed it to F$PARSE with
> > argument "NO_CONCEAL" as the parse type.
>
> > This returns:
>
> >      NODE$DKA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSMGR]LOGIN.COM;12
>
> > Thats workable but I really need it to be normalized as
>
> >      NODE$DKA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.SYSMGR]LOGIN.COM;12
>
> > I can put in conditional code to clean up the f$parse output but I'd
> > rather find a way to have the clean pathname returned.  Is there a way
> > to do this using normal lexical functions?
>
> > =====
>
> > One other alternative seems to be to use one of the FID to NAME
> > programs; since I can locate the file in question I have its FID and
> > can run it through a program (seen online here in COV, also perhaps on
> > freeware) and get the full raw pathname back.  That would be
> > acceptable too but if anyone's done it and has recommendations I'd
> > appreciate hearing back.  It would mean many thousands of image
> > activations running the FID to Name program.
>
> > Thanks for any thoughts.  Yes I checked the FAQ first but didn't see
> > anything that appeared relevant.
>
> > Rich
> > CCS
>
> How about just appending a -"][" to the F$SEARCH statement?
>
> It may be ugly but it should get the job done!  For that matter, the
> ugly original should work.  Is "pretty" worth the effort required?

Richard
     its not pretty that matters, its consistency and the possibility
that a future requirement for sorting the pathnames may be imposed.

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Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 09:01:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: Rich Jordan <jordan@ccs4vms.com>
Subject: Re: Divining the full pathname of a file, all logicals translated
Message-ID: <df90d76a-b738-4f55-a39e-0f12b2f4e2f6@z38g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>

On Mar 20, 6:58 am, "Tom Linden" <t...@kednos.company> wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:41:40 -0700, Rich Jordan <jor...@ccs4vms.com> wrote:
> > I'm looking at ways to generate the full "low level" pathname to a
> > file with no logicals, concealed, terminal, or otherwise involved, and
> > in standard format.
>
> This might help
>
> http://www.kednos.com/pli_examples/0091550B-2BACEF00-1C01E7.HTML
>
> --
> PL/I for OpenVMSwww.kednos.com

Tom,
     thanks!  Now if only I had a PL-1 compiler ;)

Actually the programs I found online use that library function;
they're in 'C', which I have access to, so that is my fallback method
for doing this.

Rich

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Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 09:12:56 -0700
From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.company>
Subject: Re: Divining the full pathname of a file, all logicals translated
Message-ID: <op.t8bonuzmhv4qyg@murphus.hsd1.ca.comcast.net>

On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 09:01:28 -0700, Rich Jordan <jordan@ccs4vms.com> wrote:

> On Mar 20, 6:58 am, "Tom Linden" <t...@kednos.company> wrote:
>> On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:41:40 -0700, Rich Jordan <jor...@ccs4vms.com>  
>> wrote:
>> > I'm looking at ways to generate the full "low level" pathname to a
>> > file with no logicals, concealed, terminal, or otherwise involved, and
>> > in standard format.
>>
>> This might help
>>
>> http://www.kednos.com/pli_examples/0091550B-2BACEF00-1C01E7.HTML
>>
>> --
>> PL/I for OpenVMSwww.kednos.com
>
> Tom,
>      thanks!  Now if only I had a PL-1 compiler ;)

If it is for hobbyist use, you can get it for free.

Otherwise, it isn't to difficult to translate it to a lower level  
language:-)

>
> Actually the programs I found online use that library function;
> they're in 'C', which I have access to, so that is my fallback method
> for doing this.
>
> Rich



-- 
PL/I for OpenVMS
www.kednos.com

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Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 12:26:02 -0400
From: "Peter Weaver" <info-vax@weaverconsulting.ca>
Subject: RE: Divining the full pathname of a file, all logicals translated
Message-ID: <045b01c88aa7$1802b020$2802a8c0@CHARONLAP>

>...
> One other alternative seems to be to use one of the FID to 
> NAME programs; since I can locate the file in question I have 
> its FID and can run it through a program (seen online here in 
> COV, also perhaps on
> freeware) and get the full raw pathname back.  That would be 
> acceptable too but if anyone's done it and has 
> recommendations I'd appreciate hearing back.  It would mean 
> many thousands of image activations running the FID to Name
program.
>...

If you are running a newer version of VMS then there is the
F$FID_TO_NAME lexical;

Lexicals

  F$FID_TO_NAME

       Valid for Alpha and I64 systems only.

       Translates a file identification to a file specification.

       Format

         F$FID_TO_NAME(device-name,file-id)




    Additional information available:

    Return_Value          Arguments  Example

Lexicals F$FID_TO_NAME Subtopic? exa




LEXICALS

  F$FID_TO_NAME

    Example


       $ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT
F$FID_TO_NAME("SYS$SYSDEVICE","(2901,33,0)")
       DISK$NODE1:[VMS$COMMON.SYSEXE]SHOW.EXE;1

           This example demonstrates that the file with
identifier
           "2901,33,0" on the system disk is file SHOW.EXE. Note:
You
           can omit the parentheses around the file identifier,
provided
           it is enclosed by double quotation marks.



Lexicals F$FID_TO_NAME Subtopic?

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Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:48:02 GMT
From: Antonio Carlini <arcarlini@iee.org>
Subject: Re: Divining the full pathname of a file, all logicals translated
Message-ID: <Xns9A67AAF2FBCE9arcarliniONieeorg@62.253.170.163>

David J Dachtera <djesys.no@spam.comcast.net> wrote in 
news:47E1C21E.953D8662@spam.comcast.net:

> Antonio's solution will work, of course.
> 
> Myself, I'd lean toward Rich Gilbert's idea of simply reducing "][" out
> of the string unconditionally:

So would I now that I see how obvious it is :-)

Too much Perl and Ruby lately I guess !

Antonio

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Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 00:38:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: o0sylvester0o@gmail.com
Subject: Follow the (Job Search) Rules!
Message-ID: <dca9a3f8-1da8-4e9f-89b0-715e2b0791d5@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com>

I've lost count of the times someone has sent me an unsolicited
resume. This one came with a transcript, but there was no cover
letter. There was no information in the email as to why the person was
sending me her job search materials or what she was attempting to
apply for. I'm not hiring, I have no open positions.In fact, I have no
clue why she wasted my time, and...

Read more of this at
http://jobs.blogs.ozfreeonline.com/2007/11/07/follow-the-job-search-rules/

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 00:39:32 -0700 (PDT)
From: o0sylvester0o@gmail.com
Subject: Follow the (Job Search) Rules!
Message-ID: <948a882b-00f7-44c0-8695-2baa9405ee38@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com>

I've lost count of the times someone has sent me an unsolicited
resume. This one came with a transcript, but there was no cover
letter. There was no information in the email as to why the person was
sending me her job search materials or what she was attempting to
apply for. I'm not hiring, I have no open positions.In fact, I have no
clue why she wasted my time, and...

Read more of this at
http://jobs.blogs.ozfreeonline.com/2007/11/07/follow-the-job-search-rules/

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 00:42:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: o0sylvester0o@gmail.com
Subject: Follow the (Job Search) Rules!
Message-ID: <64e7443b-b6bc-43bc-aebc-aca48b2e47f5@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com>

I've lost count of the times someone has sent me an unsolicited
resume. This one came with a transcript, but there was no cover
letter. There was no information in the email as to why the person was
sending me her job search materials or what she was attempting to
apply for. I'm not hiring, I have no open positions.In fact, I have no
clue why she wasted my time, and...

Read more of this at
http://jobs.blogs.ozfreeonline.com/2007/11/07/follow-the-job-search-rules/

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 05:46:10 GMT
From: John Santos <john.santos@post.harvard.edu>
Subject: Re: Hobbyist Licenses
Message-ID: <MPG.224bc494cae9537b989791@news.bellatlantic.net>

In article <k1ltt3hp94cjj4bjkaftggm43l0ngjutt9@4ax.com>, 
nobody@spamcop.com says...
> How do I renew my VAX VMS hobbiest licenses. I tried using
> htttp://www.openvmshobbyist.com/register.php a couple of weeks ago.
> The site says the request was accepted and the licenses will be
> E-mailed but they never arrived. I verified my spam filter was not
> blocking the site and tried again this weekend with the same results.
> 

When do they expire?  ISTR that if you try to renew too soon (more
than a month or so before expiration), you'll get exactly that
symptom.  Also, if you are trying to register a second system with
the same info (serial number, etc.) as one you've already registered,
it will think the current registration is still active and not issue
a new PAK.  So make sure all your SN's are unique, if registering
more than one system.  (A single set of Layered Products PAKs suffices
for all your boxes, though.)  For an emulated system such as a "VAX"
running on SIMH on a PC, etc., use the SN of the host box, or just
make one up if unobtainable.

-- 
John

------------------------------

Date: 20 Mar 2008 07:15:03 GMT
From: "David Weatherall" <nospam@nowheren.no.how>
Subject: Re: Hobbyist Licenses
Message-ID: <64eh7nF29tj7nU1@mid.individual.net>

John Santos wrote:

> In article <k1ltt3hp94cjj4bjkaftggm43l0ngjutt9@4ax.com>, 
> nobody@spamcop.com says...
> > How do I renew my VAX VMS hobbiest licenses. I tried using
> > htttp://www.openvmshobbyist.com/register.php a couple of weeks ago.
> > The site says the request was accepted and the licenses will be
> > E-mailed but they never arrived. I verified my spam filter was not
> > blocking the site and tried again this weekend with the same
> > results.
> > 
> 
> When do they expire?  ISTR that if you try to renew too soon (more
> than a month or so before expiration), you'll get exactly that
> symptom.  Also, if you are trying to register a second system with
> the same info (serial number, etc.) as one you've already registered,
> it will think the current registration is still active and not issue
> a new PAK.  So make sure all your SN's are unique, if registering
> more than one system.  (A single set of Layered Products PAKs suffices
> for all your boxes, though.)  For an emulated system such as a "VAX"
> running on SIMH on a PC, etc., use the SN of the host box, or just
> make one up if unobtainable.

Thanks John
            I had just that problem - makes sense when you think about
it. One new request for my 'other' SimH will be off soon.

Cheers - Dave.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 07:02:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: tadamsmar <tadamsmar@yahoo.com>
Subject: Please critique my backup practices
Message-ID: <26eb56f6-ec7b-42be-bf46-64def0b22f3e@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>

To do a backup, I pop a drive out of a shadowset, back it up and put
it back.

The problem is, I don't record the backup dates.

I have a incremental that runs every night that does record backup
dates.

If I had to restore, I would apply the last image and all the
incrementals after it.  But I guess I would get some extra files.

This is easy, I never have to shutdown, but what are the gotchas?

Note that if I am *planning* to do a restore I don't use incrementals,
I just use a fresh image backup.

I have never had to do an emergency image restore using incrementals.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 10:28:00 -0400
From: "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Please critique my backup practices
Message-ID: <47E27470.6030109@comcast.net>

tadamsmar wrote:
> To do a backup, I pop a drive out of a shadowset, back it up and put
> it back.
> 
> The problem is, I don't record the backup dates.
> 
> I have a incremental that runs every night that does record backup
> dates.
> 
> If I had to restore, I would apply the last image and all the
> incrementals after it.  But I guess I would get some extra files.
> 
> This is easy, I never have to shutdown, but what are the gotchas?
> 
> Note that if I am *planning* to do a restore I don't use incrementals,
> I just use a fresh image backup.
> 
> I have never had to do an emergency image restore using incrementals.

I'd avoid doing emergency restores using incrementals if at all 
possible!  Somebody has to load all those incrementals and do it in the 
proper order!  A slightly better choice would be to use differential 
backups.  Do your image once weekly and each succeeding day, do a BACKUP 
/SINCE=<date-time-of-last-image>.  That way there are only two backups 
to restore with only one right way and one wrong way to restore.

Remember that emergency restores are "panic time" when it's easiest to 
screw up!  When your boss is hovering over your desk saying "how much 
longer" every two or three minutes, is NOT a good time to try to do 
anything in any way more complicated than it absolutely has to be.

If you do your full backups with /RECORD you can do your differential 
with /SINCE=BACKUP.  This is better because you let the machine do your 
bookeeping!  It's less likely to screw up than you are!

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 08:14:30 -0700
From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.company>
Subject: Re: Please critique my backup practices
Message-ID: <op.t8blygx4hv4qyg@murphus.hsd1.ca.comcast.net>

On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 07:28:00 -0700, Richard B. Gilbert  =

<rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:

> tadamsmar wrote:
>> To do a backup, I pop a drive out of a shadowset, back it up and put
>> it back.
>>  The problem is, I don't record the backup dates.
>>  I have a incremental that runs every night that does record backup
>> dates.
>>  If I had to restore, I would apply the last image and all the
>> incrementals after it.  But I guess I would get some extra files.
>>  This is easy, I never have to shutdown, but what are the gotchas?
>>  Note that if I am *planning* to do a restore I don't use incremental=
s,
>> I just use a fresh image backup.
>>  I have never had to do an emergency image restore using incrementals=
.
>
> I'd avoid doing emergency restores using incrementals if at all  =

> possible!  Somebody has to load all those incrementals and do it in th=
e  =

> proper order!  A slightly better choice would be to use differential  =

> backups.  Do your image once weekly and each succeeding day, do a BACK=
UP  =

> /SINCE=3D<date-time-of-last-image>.  That way there are only two backu=
ps  =

> to restore with only one right way and one wrong way to restore.
>
> Remember that emergency restores are "panic time" when it's easiest to=
  =

> screw up!  When your boss is hovering over your desk saying "how much =
 =

> longer" every two or three minutes, is NOT a good time to try to do  =

> anything in any way more complicated than it absolutely has to be.
>
> If you do your full backups with /RECORD you can do your differential =
 =

> with /SINCE=3DBACKUP.  This is better because you let the machine do y=
our  =

> bookeeping!  It's less likely to screw up than you are!
>
For incrementals Tower of Hanoi algorithm is usually employed, googling

http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/questions/2005-08/1598.h=
tml


-- =

PL/I for OpenVMS
www.kednos.com

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 04:07:08 -0400
From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>
Subject: Re: VMS Mail translates incoming tilde character into a dollar sign.
Message-ID: <47e21b55$0$3870$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>

Robert Deininger wrote:

> Paul Anderson keeps walking past my cube and muttering about tildes 
> scattered around on the floor...

If every tilde filtered by MAIL around the world ends up on the floor in
your offices, then this is a far more serious security and privacy issue
than previously thought. The thought of customer data ending up in your
offices (and on the floor nontheless) is very scary.

I want HP to return every one of *MY* tildes that HP stole from my
machine, and will will not accept anyone else's tildes. And HP better
make sure the tildes are clean and undamaged from Paul Anderson walking
over them.

(We should launch a class action suit on this, April 1 is coming very
soon :-) :-) :-) :-)

------------------------------

Date: 20 Mar 2008 10:30:28 GMT
From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG
Subject: Re: VMS Mail translates incoming tilde character into a dollar sign.
Message-ID: <47e23cc4$0$5651$607ed4bc@cv.net>

In article <rdeininger-A6BA19.01373020032008@70-3-168-216.area5.spcsdns.net>, Robert Deininger <rdeininger@mindspring.dot.com> writes:
>{...snip...}
>I expect the whole thing will be cleaned up before the next VMS release, 
>and MAIL$FILTER will just be an amusing bit of history.  The tildes will 
>go back on the screen where they belong, and Paul won't trip over them 
>when he wanders the halls.

Do tell him to be careful.  We need him to keep DCPS functioning.  However,
if he keeps poisoning his system with White Castle, there's little hope for
DCPS.

-- 
VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker   VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM
           
  "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?" 

http://tmesis.com/drat.html

------------------------------

Date: 20 Mar 2008 11:53:09 GMT
From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG
Subject: Re: VMS Mail translates incoming tilde character into a dollar sign.
Message-ID: <47e25025$0$5651$607ed4bc@cv.net>

In article <47e21b55$0$3870$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> writes:
>Robert Deininger wrote:
>
>> Paul Anderson keeps walking past my cube and muttering about tildes 
>> scattered around on the floor...
>
>If every tilde filtered by MAIL around the world ends up on the floor in
>your offices, then this is a far more serious security and privacy issue
>than previously thought. The thought of customer data ending up in your
>offices (and on the floor nontheless) is very scary.
>
>I want HP to return every one of *MY* tildes that HP stole from my
>machine, and will will not accept anyone else's tildes. And HP better
>make sure the tildes are clean and undamaged from Paul Anderson walking
>over them.
>
>(We should launch a class action suit on this, April 1 is coming very
>soon :-) :-) :-) :-)

I understand that several conspiratorial law firms are already scheming to
leverage their powers of legally sanctioned extortion to collect on damages
for your tildes.  In this list are:

Dewey, Cheatham and Howe
Hassall, Payne and Suffren
Lowe, Ball, Doolittle and Stahl 
Hyde, Price, Diddle and Runne
Lawless, Savage, and Slaughter
Assman, Hertz, and Boltz
Crookes, Phelans and Deemans
Blowe, Jobbs and Moorehead
Benn, Dover, Grin and Barrett
Little, Cox, Noah, Braynes and Littlemor

You'll likely find all of the firms in the peoples republic of New Jermany.
No surpise!

-- 
VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker   VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM
           
  "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?" 

http://tmesis.com/drat.html

------------------------------

Date: 20 Mar 2008 08:56:33 -0600
From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)
Subject: Re: VMS Mail translates incoming tilde character into a dollar sign.
Message-ID: <a5cM4Ie5d3$b@eisner.encompasserve.org>

In article <frrt8b$bbg$3@online.de>, helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) writes:
> 
> It DOES show that VMS MAIL is still being "developed".  While they're at 
> it, maybe they can get rid of the bugs introduced when it was rewritten 
> in C from BLISS.

   That really ought to be easy:

   cms set library vms_engineering_mail_utility
   cms remove element mail.c "full of bugs"
   cms reserve descrip.mms
   edit/edt descrip.mms
   s/mail.c/mail.bli/w
   exit
   cms replace descrip.mms
   mms/cms

------------------------------

Date: 20 Mar 2008 08:59:19 -0600
From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)
Subject: Re: VMS Mail translates incoming tilde character into a dollar sign.
Message-ID: <p$IjHFeR7M45@eisner.encompasserve.org>

In article <64dbouF2b27agU1@mid.individual.net>, billg999@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) writes:
> 
> And since when is a tilde by itself or contained within a URL: an
> escape sequence?  Why can't people just admit when they screw up?

   Some big customer complained and HP should have given them free
   working copies of a proper emulator, but instead they assigned
   it to some newbie in VMS engineering that doesn't understand
   upward compatability, or how to use VMS.

   Hopefully there are enough grey hairs left in VMS engineering that
   will see to it that this bug will get fixed.

------------------------------

Date: 20 Mar 2008 09:00:52 -0600
From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)
Subject: Re: VMS Mail translates incoming tilde character into a dollar sign.
Message-ID: <DMJJu9x0bENL@eisner.encompasserve.org>

In article <MPG.224bbe818c230ced989790@news.bellatlantic.net>, John Santos <john.santos@post.harvard.edu> writes:
> 
> That's what I was thinking of, but couldn't remember the name.  I've 
> never actually used it, so I don't know if it already does everything
> you would need to fix the broken terminal emulator, but it is probably 
> pretty close.

   Yeah, I had to look it up.  I kept thinking TFF, but I couldn't
   remember what the last F stood for (facility).

   You fix broken terminal emulators by replacing them.  TFF, however,
   might be able to work around this one.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 07:22:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: Verne <verne@wvnet.edu>
Subject: Re: VMS Mail translates incoming tilde character into a dollar sign.
Message-ID: <cb807302-bf0b-48ed-be65-5bb37d0e70fc@p73g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>

On Mar 20, 11:00=A0am, koeh...@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob
Koehler) wrote:
> In article <MPG.224bbe818c230ced989...@news.bellatlantic.net>, John Santos=
 <john.san...@post.harvard.edu> writes:

[...snip...]

I just received yesterday new MAIL.EXE files from Support for

Alpha v8.3
IA64 v8.2-1
IA64 v8.3

so if you have Support, they have been built and should be available
today
just for the asking.

I just tested the IA64 v8.3 image and it works as described (using the
process-level
logical name MAIL$FILTER to control the ~ and } replacement ... and
the only value
that works, as mentioned in this thread, is  DEFINE  MAIL$FILTER
1  ).

I was told that formal MAIL patch kits have been requested and they
should be
available for everyone to download in about 8 weeks.

( as with many of you, we have had a VMS support contract it seems
FOREVER, so I decided to exercise it when I came across this
thread  :-)  )

Verne Britton, WVNET

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 12:08:13 -0400
From: "Hank Vander Waal" <hvanderw@comcast.net>
Subject: What sysgen param needs to be changed?
Message-ID: <007f01c88aa4$99db60e0$6500a8c0@dellxp30>

Trying to open files over DECNET (IV) and I get the error below:

-RMS-E-ACC, ACP file access failed
-SYSTEM-F-REMRSRC, insufficient system resources at remote node

Is this caused by a SYSGEN param. or an account setting for the DECNET
account  or both ?

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:44:11 GMT
From: Rob Brown <mylastname@gmcl.com>
Subject: Re: What sysgen param needs to be changed?
Message-ID: <alpine.LRH.1.00.0803201042100.10151@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, 20 Mar 2008, Hank Vander Waal wrote:

> Trying to open files over DECNET (IV) and I get the error below:
>
> -RMS-E-ACC, ACP file access failed
> -SYSTEM-F-REMRSRC, insufficient system resources at remote node
>
> Is this caused by a SYSGEN param. or an account setting for the 
> DECNET account or both ?

What does NETSERVER.LOG on the remote node say?  This file will be in 
the login in directory of the remote user.


-- 

Rob Brown                        b r o w n a t g m c l d o t c o m
G. Michaels Consulting Ltd.      (780)438-9343 (voice)
Edmonton                         (780)437-3367 (FAX)
                                  http://gmcl.com/

------------------------------

Date: 20 Mar 2008 12:46:34 -0600
From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)
Subject: Re: What sysgen param needs to be changed?
Message-ID: <QDJvwszyuvmo@eisner.encompasserve.org>

In article <007f01c88aa4$99db60e0$6500a8c0@dellxp30>, "Hank Vander Waal" <hvanderw@comcast.net> writes:
> Trying to open files over DECNET (IV) and I get the error below:
> 
> -RMS-E-ACC, ACP file access failed
> -SYSTEM-F-REMRSRC, insufficient system resources at remote node
> 
> Is this caused by a SYSGEN param. or an account setting for the DECNET
> account  or both ?

   Could be either.  Someone on the remote node needs to investigate.

------------------------------

Date: 20 Mar 2008 13:20:47 -0500
From: brooks@cuebid.zko.hp.nospam (Rob Brooks)
Subject: Re: What sysgen param needs to be changed?
Message-ID: <SXdaUd4EeNAP@cuebid.zko.hp.com>

"Hank Vander Waal" <hvanderw@comcast.net> writes:
> Trying to open files over DECNET (IV) and I get the error below:
> 
> -RMS-E-ACC, ACP file access failed
> -SYSTEM-F-REMRSRC, insufficient system resources at remote node
> 
> Is this caused by a SYSGEN param. or an account setting for the DECNET
> account  or both ?

What version of the Operating system and platform are you using?

I believe there is an issue with activating I64 images over the network,
although I don't know how that error would be signalled.

-- 

Rob Brooks    MSL -- Nashua			brooks!cuebid.zko.hp.com

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 13:41:02 -0400
From: "Hank Vander Waal" <hvanderw@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: What sysgen param needs to be changed?
Message-ID: <008f01c88ab1$91c79600$6500a8c0@dellxp30>

I am running the program on I64 and the programs are on that machine.  I am
opening files on alpha 7.1 system 
The netserver.log file does not show any errors

-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Brooks [mailto:brooks@cuebid.zko.hp.nospam] 
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 2:21 PM
To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com
Subject: Re: What sysgen param needs to be changed?

"Hank Vander Waal" <hvanderw@comcast.net> writes:
> Trying to open files over DECNET (IV) and I get the error below:
> 
> -RMS-E-ACC, ACP file access failed
> -SYSTEM-F-REMRSRC, insufficient system resources at remote node
> 
> Is this caused by a SYSGEN param. or an account setting for the DECNET
> account  or both ?

What version of the Operating system and platform are you using?

I believe there is an issue with activating I64 images over the network,
although I don't know how that error would be signalled.

-- 

Rob Brooks    MSL -- Nashua			brooks!cuebid.zko.hp.com

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 13:43:23 -0400
From: "Hank Vander Waal" <hvanderw@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: What sysgen param needs to be changed?
Message-ID: <009001c88ab1$e57f2a60$6500a8c0@dellxp30>

$ V = F$VERIFY(NETSERVER$VERIFY)

        --------------------------------------------------------

        Connect request received at 20-MAR-2008 12:43:14.92
            from remote process YETI::"0=HANKVW"
            for object "SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]FAL.EXE"

        --------------------------------------------------------

%PURGE-W-FILNOTPUR, error deleting DRA0:[HANKVW]NETSERVER.LOG;8
-RMS-E-FLK, file currently locked by another user
%PURGE-W-FILNOTPUR, error deleting DRA0:[HANKVW]NETSERVER.LOG;7

And that's all 

-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Brown [mailto:mylastname@gmcl.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 12:44 PM
To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com
Subject: Re: What sysgen param needs to be changed?

On Thu, 20 Mar 2008, Hank Vander Waal wrote:

> Trying to open files over DECNET (IV) and I get the error below:
>
> -RMS-E-ACC, ACP file access failed
> -SYSTEM-F-REMRSRC, insufficient system resources at remote node
>
> Is this caused by a SYSGEN param. or an account setting for the 
> DECNET account or both ?

What does NETSERVER.LOG on the remote node say?  This file will be in 
the login in directory of the remote user.


-- 

Rob Brown                        b r o w n a t g m c l d o t c o m
G. Michaels Consulting Ltd.      (780)438-9343 (voice)
Edmonton                         (780)437-3367 (FAX)
                                  http://gmcl.com/

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