INFO-VAX Fri, 16 Feb 2007 Volume 2007 : Issue 94 Contents: Re: Checking backup (and other batch jobs) Re: Checking backup (and other batch jobs) Re: cURL 7.16.0 released for VMS Re: DVD writer for DS10L ? Re: DVD writer for DS10L ? FA: DEC Digital DLV11-J DLVJ1 M8043 & Cab Kit PDP-11 NOS NR Re: Fiber connection problems with 1-GB HBA and 4-GB SAN Re: Finding the IP of some device on the LAN ? Re: Finding the IP of some device on the LAN ? Re: Guidelines for converting programs to ODS-5? Re: How to temporarily disable AUTO_DLIGHT_SAV? Re: How to temporarily disable AUTO_DLIGHT_SAV? Javascript vulnerabilities Re: Javascript vulnerabilities KK Hovercraft Service in Borneo launched Re: Migrating C application from VMS to LINUX Re: Migrating C application from VMS to LINUX Monitor JTQUOTA usage of another process. Re: Monitor JTQUOTA usage of another process. Re: MSA1500 on VMS? Re: OpenVMS Pearl - Its Official - OpenVMS on Blades - ok for Public Distributi OpenVMS Pearl - Press Release (check out Martin Fink's quote) Re: OpenVMS Pearl - Press Release (check out Martin Fink's quote) Re: Oracle - DST 2007 heads up Re: Oracle - DST 2007 heads up Status of Flight ? Re: Status of Flight ? Re: Status of Flight ? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 16 Feb 2007 04:37:20 -0800 From: "bclaremont" Subject: Re: Checking backup (and other batch jobs) Message-ID: <1171629440.522630.127200@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com> You will find my take on how to do this with DCL documented in this article: http://www.migrationspecialties.com/pdf/Using%20OpenVMS%20to%20Meet%20a%20Sarbanes-Oxley%20Mandate2.pdf Bruce Claremont www.MigrationSpecialties.com OpenVMS Stealth Marketing Squad ------------------------------ Date: 16 Feb 2007 11:08:32 -0600 From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) Subject: Re: Checking backup (and other batch jobs) Message-ID: In article , "Andrew Black (delete obvious bit)" writes: > I would like a program to run that checks on the status of batch jobs (eg > backups). I would like a mail sent with different subject line for > - job ran successfully > - job generated errors > - job appear not to have run > > I started to write something using a mixture of SEARCH -e- etc and MAIL > but was starting to think someone must have written this better than I > can do quickly I embed this in my batch jobs. An "on" statement captures jumps to a label which catches $STATUS and generates an email, then lets the batch job continue if appropriate. It would be trivial to add an email at the end of the job. Usually submit/notify serves this purpose instead. A batch job that didn't run? Missing from the email. ------------------------------ Date: 10 Feb 2007 18:17:28 -0600 From: kuhrt.nospammy@encompasserve.org (Marty Kuhrt) Subject: Re: cURL 7.16.0 released for VMS Message-ID: In article <531tkqF1qh605U1@mid.individual.net>, Ken Fairfield writes: > Marty Kuhrt wrote: >> The latest version of cURL, 7.16.0, has been released for OpenVMS >> and is available for download. >> >> The location is http://curl.haxx.se/download.html#VMS >> >> This is the binary and object library distribution of the cURL >> 7.16.0 release. See the readme.vms file in the zip for usage >> information. The zip files contain executables and objects built >> with OpenSSL, hpSSL and without SSL support. The files are in >> architecture specific zips. >> >> The OpenSSL and noSSL versions are self-contained in that you can >> run these programs without any other software on the system. For >> the hp SSL version, you will need to have hp's SSL V1.1-B product >> installed. >> >> HW Type VMS Version Compiler Vers SSL Library Filenames >> --------+-------------+---------------+----------------+----------- >> Alpha | OpenVMS 7.3 | DEC C 6.5-001 | OpenSSL 0.9.7e | .*_openssl >> Alpha | OpenVMS 7.3 | DEC C 6.5-001 | hpSSL 1.1-B | .*_hpssl >> Alpha | OpenVMS 7.3 | DEC C 6.5-001 | No SSL support | .*_nossl >> IA64 | OpenVMS 8.3 | HP C V7.2-22 | OpenSSL 0.9.7d | .*_openssl >> IA64 | OpenVMS 8.3 | HP C V7.2-22 | hp SSL 1.3 | .*_hpssl >> IA64 | OpenVMS 8.3 | HP C V7.2-22 | No SSL support | .*_nossl >> VAX | OpenVMS 7.3 | DEC C 6.4-005 | OpenSSL 0.9.7e | .*_openssl >> VAX | OpenVMS 7.3 | DEC C 6.4-005 | hpSSL 1.1-B | .*_hpssl >> VAX | OpenVMS 7.3 | DEC C 6.4-005 | No SSL support | .*_nossl > [...] > > OpenVMS 8.3 on a PWS600au, with CSWB V1.7-13 and prerequisites > installed, i.e., > > ======================================================================= > NAPILI::Ken> prod sho prod ssl > ------------------------------------ ----------- --------- > PRODUCT KIT TYPE STATE > ------------------------------------ ----------- --------- > HP AXPVMS SSL V1.3-281 Full LP Installed > ------------------------------------ ----------- --------- > > 1 item found > NAPILI::Ken> > ======================================================================= > > I downloaded the referenced kit, CURL-7_16_0-VMS-AXP.ZIP, and extracted > curl.exe_hpssl. On attempting to run this image, I get: > > ======================================================================= > NAPILI::Ken> curl == "$Fw_$Root:[Curl]Curl.Exe_hpssl" > NAPILI::Ken> curl -help > %DCL-W-ACTIMAGE, error activating image SSL$LIBSSL_SHR32 > -CLI-E-IMGNAME, image file > NAPILI$DKA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSLIB]SSL$LIBSSL_SHR32 > .EXE > -SYSTEM-F-SHRIDMISMAT, ident mismatch with shareable image > NAPILI::Ken> > ======================================================================= > > The self-contained .EXE_OPENSSL image runs, but I would have expected > this version to work as well. > > Is there a script or make file to relink the image? > > Thanks, Ken > -- > Ken & Ann Fairfield > Who: Ken dot and dot Ann > Where: Gmail dot Com If you download the source zip there is a [.packages.vms] subdirectory. All the command procedures I use to do the build are in there. You may have to adjust them for your environment, but it is pretty straight forward stuff. You'll need a recent unzip, vmstar and a C compiler. I don't have access to a V8.* Alpha system. I build on V7.3 systems for VAX and Alpha as the lowest common denominator type of build. Those systems have HP SSL 1.1-B installed. For IA64 I'm stuck with whatever the HP Test Drive system has. I just assumed that any later version of HP SSL would probably work, since this _is_ VMS where upward compatibility is expected. Guess I was wrong. I'll have to update the release notes and readme to reflect that. HP SSL is OpenSSL, in the case of 1.1-B it is based on 0.9.6g. The OpenSSL built into the .exe_openssl version of cURL 7.16.0 is 0.9.7e. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 23:45:29 -0500 From: JF Mezei Subject: Re: DVD writer for DS10L ? Message-ID: <85c44$45d536eb$cef8887a$8291@TEKSAVVY.COM> etmsreec@yahoo.co.uk wrote: > But if you have a decent sized disk on the VMS side where you can make > container files plus a MAC or PC, why not just copy the container file > from VMS to the other platform and cut the disk on the other > platform? What is so wrong with wanting VMS to have modern features ? It used to be that VMS was used as "backup" machine. Now, you are recommending I use wond intel crap box to backup VMS data to CD/DVD. No thank you. Considering it appears that VMS already has the software and drivers to support DVD hardware, if it is just the matter of a few screws to get a slimline DVD drives working, I am not going to give up. It is worth pushing the limits of VMS because in the end, it is now the best way to get VMS to keep moving ahead from the user point of view because HP only cares about improvements to let VMS use new HP storage products and help sustain its dying IA64 business. ------------------------------ Date: 16 Feb 2007 10:38:39 +0100 From: vaxinf@chclu.chemie.uni-konstanz.de (Eberhard Heuser-Hofmann) Subject: Re: DVD writer for DS10L ? Message-ID: <45d57b9f$1@merkur.rz.uni-konstanz.de> In article <1171557305.406438.217060@l53g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, etmsreec@yahoo.co.uk writes: >But if you have a decent sized disk on the VMS side where you can make >container files plus a MAC or PC, why not just copy the container file >from VMS to the other platform and cut the disk on the other >platform? Would probably be cheaper and easier to find a DVDWriter >that works in a PC or Mac than in the DS10L, as Hoff has already >suggested. > >Steve >JF Mezei wrote: >> Ok, back to this topic. >> [snip] >> But I think he was refering to an external SCSI drive. > > Some arguments against this: 1.) This procedure is time consuming: 4 GB through fast ethernet will take alot of time (just tested: 30 mins 2,5 MByte/s) If you use Double Layer the time doubles (1 h!!!) You will get gray hair if you select Blu-Ray with about 20 GB / 40 GB (3h / 6h) 2.) What is often not mentioned: The burning process does not verify the data during the burning process (there is one exception: DVD-RAM!). So verification (Bit by Bit) is a must. Your PC burning program can hopefully compare an external ISO image in that way. 3.) Because DVDwrite is written for OpenVMS you'll can use the program in your command files. It return usual error code (sucesss, fatal errors). This helps you to do your archiving job automatically. Eberhard ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 17:02:47 GMT From: Jeff Shirley Subject: FA: DEC Digital DLV11-J DLVJ1 M8043 & Cab Kit PDP-11 NOS NR Message-ID: Greetings. I listed this item on Ebay last night. The item number is 220083121159, and the starting bid is $4.99. See below for the description. My apologies if my FA: post has offended anyone. Jeff. ---------- This auction is for a DEC DLV11-J (aka DLVJ1), documentation, cable, and distribution panel. The card and documentation are in the original box dated May 9, 1990. This card was typically used to interface console and other terminals (up to four) to Q-bus PDP-11 or LSI-11 systems. The following items are included: M8043 DLV11-J/DLVJ1 Rev. L1 70-16436-01 Rev. C1 Cable 5014894-01 A1 DLV11-J/RS422 Distribution Panel EK-DLVQM-TM-001 QMA DLV Asynchronous Line Interface Technical Manual K-TC-DLVJ1-0-1 Rev. A Field Maintenance Print Set 36-25810-J1-A1 Manufacturing Quality Feedback Information This card has not been tested, but appears to be unused. The connectors on the card are filled with what I believe are test plugs. The cable and distribution panel, which also appear unused, are suitable for BA23 or similar enclosures. Shipping for this item will probably be between $10 and $20 to locations in the continental US. -- Jeff Shirley spamitol@mindspring.com "Bill Gates is filthy rich, but that doesn't mean I want to be married to him." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 07:15:47 -0600 From: John Subject: Re: Fiber connection problems with 1-GB HBA and 4-GB SAN Message-ID: <45D5AE83.4050409@tx.rr.com> Dave Harrold wrote: > John wrote: > >> (I do not know the command to scan all the WWID devices on the fabric) > > The command that shows all logged in devices is switchshow. This > would be the first thing I would check. Make sure all of the devices > are logged in to the fabric. If not, fix that first. This command (switchshow) and all other similiar commands for that matter only show what devices are attached to the switch - not the entire fabric. By fabric I mean all the devices on each switch in the fabric. This command eludes me and would be most helpful. > Did you create a zone(s) for the DS10 and the tape library? Did you > add it to the configuration and did you activate the configuration? > > I would start checking there. Actually - I should start by checking the fiber connection and make sure that the DS10 that I am testing is attached to the fabric. The other one was ... not the one I was testing - LOL Thanks for your reply Dave! ------------------------------ Date: 16 Feb 2007 07:14:14 -0600 From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) Subject: Re: Finding the IP of some device on the LAN ? Message-ID: In article <2c36c$45d53be5$cef8887a$8794@TEKSAVVY.COM>, JF Mezei writes: > Bill Gunshannon wrote: >> Maybe we need a better explanation of just what this device is supposed >> to be and do! :-) > > This is some consumer oriented DSL modem/router. And the documentation says > that the user can type ANY url in a browser and the gizmo will intercept > the request and display the configuration screens. But the doc doesn't say > how it manages to do this. (knowing how this COULD be done doesn't confirm > how it is actually done) Sounds like the gizmo starts up in promiscuous mode. Or, being the router, assumes the consumer device is running DHCP. Reminds me of a hotel's interface I once used. I could start telnet or ftp right off, but I couldn't browse any web pages until I tried a site with no pathname (after the host name). That their interface remapped to the conditions agreement page I was supposed to start with. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 13:27:05 -0000 From: "Richard Brodie" Subject: Re: Finding the IP of some device on the LAN ? Message-ID: "Bob Koehler" wrote in message news:xjr7PLjjrztR@eisner.encompasserve.org... > Sounds like the gizmo starts up in promiscuous mode. Or, being the > router, assumes the consumer device is running DHCP. Proxy ARP would do too, I guess. ------------------------------ Date: 16 Feb 2007 07:08:48 -0600 From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) Subject: Re: Guidelines for converting programs to ODS-5? Message-ID: In article <10W7iSOokwIJ@eisner.encompasserve.org>, Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) writes: > > Well NAML$C_MAXRSS would be irrelevant on VAX, wouldn't it ? Oops, yes. Mixed up two threads in my head. This was something I tested on Alpha. ------------------------------ Date: 16 Feb 2007 07:07:16 -0800 From: "tadamsmar" Subject: Re: How to temporarily disable AUTO_DLIGHT_SAV? Message-ID: <1171638436.242934.189930@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com> On Feb 13, 10:10 pm, Ken Fairfield wrote: > tadamsmarwrote: > > I have the following notes on how to set AUTO_DLIGHT_SAV > > > SYSMAN > > PARA SET AUTO_DLIGHT_SAV 1 > > PARA WRITE ACTIVE > > PARA WRITE CURRENT > > reboot > > A late reply here, but I'd note that the above sequence > is dangerous! Don't do it... > > You're overwriting the CURRENT parameters (as created > by AUTOGEN and stored in ALPHAVMSSYS.PAR) with the > ACTIVE(in-memory) parameters; ALL of them. The > ACTIVE paramters do NOT all have the same values > as the CURRENT parameters. > > Instead, be sure to USE the parameter set you want prior > to changing a value: > > $ MCR SYSMAN > SYSMAN> use active > SYSMAN> set AUTO_DLIGHT_SAV 1 > SYSMAN> show . ! Verify setting > SYSMAN> write active > SYSMAN> use current > SYSMAN> set AUTO_DLIGHT_SAV 1 > SYSMAN> show . > SYSMAN> write current ! Only AUTO_DLIGHT_SAV changed > SYSMAN> exit > > Regards, Ken > -- > Ken & Ann Fairfield > What: Ken dot And dot Ann > Where: Gmail dot Com Thanks. To be exact: > $ MCR SYSMAN > SYSMAN> para use active > SYSMAN> para set AUTO_DLIGHT_SAV 1 > SYSMAN> para show auto ! Verify setting > SYSMAN> para write active > SYSMAN> para use current > SYSMAN> para set AUTO_DLIGHT_SAV 1 > SYSMAN> para show auto > SYSMAN> para write current ! Only AUTO_DLIGHT_SAV changed > SYSMAN> exit > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 11:49:43 -0500 From: norm.raphael@metso.com Subject: Re: How to temporarily disable AUTO_DLIGHT_SAV? Message-ID: "tadamsmar" wrote on 02/16/2007 10:07:16 AM: > On Feb 13, 10:10 pm, Ken Fairfield wrote: > > tadamsmarwrote: > > > I have the following notes on how to set AUTO_DLIGHT_SAV > > > > > SYSMAN > > > PARA SET AUTO_DLIGHT_SAV 1 > > > PARA WRITE ACTIVE > > > PARA WRITE CURRENT > > > reboot > > > > A late reply here, but I'd note that the above sequence > > is dangerous! Don't do it... > > > > You're overwriting the CURRENT parameters (as created > > by AUTOGEN and stored in ALPHAVMSSYS.PAR) with the > > ACTIVE(in-memory) parameters; ALL of them. The > > ACTIVE paramters do NOT all have the same values > > as the CURRENT parameters. > > > > Instead, be sure to USE the parameter set you want prior > > to changing a value: > > > > $ MCR SYSMAN > > SYSMAN> use active > > SYSMAN> set AUTO_DLIGHT_SAV 1 > > SYSMAN> show . ! Verify setting > > SYSMAN> write active > > SYSMAN> use current > > SYSMAN> set AUTO_DLIGHT_SAV 1 > > SYSMAN> show . > > SYSMAN> write current ! Only AUTO_DLIGHT_SAV changed > > SYSMAN> exit > > > > Regards, Ken > > -- > > Ken & Ann Fairfield > > What: Ken dot And dot Ann > > Where: Gmail dot Com > > Thanks. To be exact: > > > $ MCR SYSMAN > > SYSMAN> para use active > > SYSMAN> para set AUTO_DLIGHT_SAV 1 > > SYSMAN> para show auto ! Verify setting > > SYSMAN> para write active > > SYSMAN> para use current > > SYSMAN> para set AUTO_DLIGHT_SAV 1 > > SYSMAN> para show auto > > SYSMAN> para write current ! Only AUTO_DLIGHT_SAV changed > > SYSMAN> exit > > > > > ..but IIRC AUTO_DLIGHT_SAV is not dynamic, so "WRITE ACTIVE" will not change anything; a REBOOT will still be required. Did you try: SYSMAN> para use active SYSMAN> para show auto ! Really Verify setting after "SYSMAN> para write active" above? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 03:39:09 -0500 From: JF Mezei Subject: Javascript vulnerabilities Message-ID: http://www.cs.indiana.edu/pub/techreports/TR641.pdf A malicious web page can use JAVA and Javascript to essentially scan a user's LAN for routers and identify the type of router (try to load a .jpg/.gif file that would be present in a router's HTTP configuration server, once you know such a file can be served, you also know the router's brand/type and can try HTTP transactions that log you in to that router with default password and then send HTTP transactions to reconfigure the router, or worse, get the router to download new firmware from a malicious web/ftp site. ------------------------------ Date: 16 Feb 2007 11:24:13 -0600 From: cornelius@encompasserve.org (George Cornelius) Subject: Re: Javascript vulnerabilities Message-ID: <$08bOCKpYKRC@eisner.encompasserve.org> In article , JF Mezei writes: > http://www.cs.indiana.edu/pub/techreports/TR641.pdf > > A malicious web page can use JAVA and Javascript to essentially scan a > user's LAN for routers and identify the type of router (try to load a > .jpg/.gif file that would be present in a router's HTTP configuration > server, once you know such a file can be served, you also know the router's > brand/type and can try HTTP transactions that log you in to that router > with default password and then send HTTP transactions to reconfigure the > router, or worse, get the router to download new firmware from a malicious > web/ftp site. Interesting. By the way, both of my routers remember when I am logged in and will allow subsequent operations from that or another browser instance without a password, although at least one of them will eventually time out a login. And if I use Firefox and have it remember passwords, well, the perpetrators might just be in automatically. -- George Cornelius cornelius()eisner.decus.org cornelius()mayo.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 07:42:15 GMT From: KK Subject: KK Hovercraft Service in Borneo launched Message-ID: http://hanger36.blogspot.com/2007/02/hovercraft-service.html - The 15km hovercraft service from the city and 1Borneo (phase one development of this service) will only take 15 minutes (Confirmed) - or one km per minute. Alleged terror plot suspected http://hanger36.blogspot.com/2007/02/terror-plot-suspected.html ------------------------------ Date: 16 Feb 2007 02:16:21 -0800 From: "klaus1" Subject: Re: Migrating C application from VMS to LINUX Message-ID: <1171620981.335642.24800@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> On Feb 15, 7:29 pm, b...@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) wrote: > In article , > Paul Sture writes: > > > > > In article <53goebF1smil...@mid.individual.net>, > > b...@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) wrote: > > >> In article , > >> Paul Sture writes: > >> > In article <53ff4lF1srsv...@mid.individual.net>, > >> > b...@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) wrote: > > >> > Where have you been since 2001? > > >> Working for sub-standard wages in academia (actually, since about 1988) > >> but hopefully, not for much longer. And I have constantly followed the > >> IT market in order to help students find jobs after graduating. The > >> only way to reduce labor costs is to move off-shore. At least over here, > >> IT jobs make up 5-8 of the top 10 paying jobs, depending on who's survey > >> you look at. I wouldn't think things were that much different in Europe. > >> Especially considering the higher costs for hardware and software over > >> there. > > > I was thinking of the effect of layoffs when I wrote the above. Back in > > 2002-ish, various employers were using the threat of them to force pay > > cuts, particularly in the freelance sector. Great, eh, the insecurity of > > freelance work, with zero financial compensation? > > Yeah, funny how that worked. An artificially created (and actually > non-existant) "glut" that has resulted in a serious shortage of > qualified IT people in the US that has resulted in more off-shoring > and more demand for green-card labor from the likes of Bill Gates. > > And CS/CIS enrollments in Universities are down and continuing to > drop even though 5-8 (depending on which survey you read) of the > top 10 paying jobs for recent graduating under-grads are in the > IT professions. Which is, of course, (along with a serious dis- > illusionment with academia) why I am looking to leave academia and > return to the real IT world for the last part of my working life. > Anybody in Georgia need a really good COBOL/Fortran/Pascal programmer? > Oh yeah, I also do C and Ada. And I have been know to do Algol, PL/I > and even Basic. And others I have long ago forgotten. :-) > > bill > > -- > Bill Gunshannon | de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n. Three wolves > b...@cs.scranton.edu | and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. > University of Scranton | > Scranton, Pennsylvania | #include thanks for the thousands of answers! ;-) I just looking for interprocess communication IPC. Does anyone have some information for me, what kind of IPC exists in VMS and how I can port these to Linux. thanks, Klaus ------------------------------ Date: 16 Feb 2007 04:03:41 -0800 From: "klaus1" Subject: Re: Migrating C application from VMS to LINUX Message-ID: <1171627421.865178.26420@k78g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On Feb 16, 12:22 pm, JF Mezei wrote: > klaus1 wrote: > > I just looking for interprocess communication IPC. Does anyone have > > some information for me, what kind of IPC exists in VMS and how I can > > port these to Linux. > > You can get a copy of a VAX or Alpha emulator to run as an app on Linux and > run VMS on linux. No need to port the apps. And you put new apps native on > Linux. > > In terms of IPC on VMS: > > Mailboxes > common event flags > locks > shared memory > decnet task to task > icc > tcpip > > It really depends on what sort of application you have, how complex it is > and how much it relies on VMS specific systems services. thanks for the answer, I use the following IPCs on VMS: - Mailboxes - common event flags - locks - global sections Which kind of emulator exists as an Linux app ? I read in this thread, that "shmem" calls in linux can cover IPCs. Is it possible to cover the whole list I mentioned before? thanks, Klaus ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 10:19:47 -0600 From: Dave Harrold Subject: Monitor JTQUOTA usage of another process. Message-ID: <53m3t4F1timvvU1@mid.individual.net> Hi, I am trying to see how much a process has used of its JTQUOTA. I can't seem to find that information in any obvious place. Can someone tell me how to get that information? Thanks, Dave -- Dave Harrold, Lead Software Systems Engineer Aurora Health Care 3031 W. Montana Street Milwaukee, WI 53215 Phone: (414) 647-6204 FAX: (414) 647-4999 Email: David.Harrold@aurora.org http://www.AuroraHealthCare.org ------------------------------ Date: 16 Feb 2007 18:38:19 +0100 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOeGER) Subject: Re: Monitor JTQUOTA usage of another process. Message-ID: <45d5fa1b$1@news.langstoeger.at> In article <53m3t4F1timvvU1@mid.individual.net>, Dave Harrold writes: >I am trying to see how much a process has used of its JTQUOTA. I can't >seem to find that information in any obvious place. > >Can someone tell me how to get that information? $ SHOW LOGICAL/TABLE=LNM$JOB_84067840 (LNM$JOB_84067840) [kernel] [shareable] [Quota=(5744,10000)] ... Or did you mean programmatically? -- Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER Network and OpenVMS system specialist E-mail peter@langstoeger.at A-1030 VIENNA AUSTRIA I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 07:15:11 GMT From: "Malcolm Dunnett" Subject: Re: MSA1500 on VMS? Message-ID: <3ScBh.81935$Y6.36244@edtnps89> wrote: |I know of a number of people who have MSA1000s on their AlphaServers | and one on an Integrity too with VMS. The biggest gotcha is that the | 1000s only do active-standby, not active-active if you have two | controllers. There is a (long awaited) firmware release I believe to | fix this, but I've no news of it yet. | It was released yesterday. Claims to support active/active on both MSA1000 and MSA1500 and work with VMS 8.2 and up. See: http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareDescription.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodTypeId=12169&prodSeriesId=377751&prodNameId=448644&swEnvOID=2016&swLang=13&mode=2&taskId=135&swItem=co-47059-1 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 23:48:04 -0500 From: JF Mezei Subject: Re: OpenVMS Pearl - Its Official - OpenVMS on Blades - ok for Public Distributi Message-ID: <9aed2$45d53786$cef8887a$8291@TEKSAVVY.COM> Sue wrote: > Today at 12:01 HP made a number of announcements and one of them was > announcing VMS on C-Class blades Sue, wasn't this announced last year or even before when HP announced it would have some proprietary IA64 cards that could fit onto blade cabinets designed for the industray standard CPUs ? Or has HP waited all this time before committing VMS to it ? I take it next weeks presentations in Canada will be chockful of VMS specific details on this implementation plan ? ------------------------------ Date: 16 Feb 2007 08:31:40 -0800 From: "Sue" Subject: OpenVMS Pearl - Press Release (check out Martin Fink's quote) Message-ID: <1171643500.247558.180730@t69g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> -----Original Message----- From: Skonetski, Susan Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 10:42 AM To: Skonetski, Susan Subject: OpenVMS Pearl - Press Release (check out Martin Fink's quote) http://www.idi-middleware.com/pressrelease021507.html Information Design, Inc. Announces Migration of Middleware Support Products to HP Integrity Servers Here is Martin's quote which I really like Mr. Martin Fink, V.P. of the HP Business Critical Server Group stated, "We have long appreciated IDI's reputation and capabilities as they have applied their integration expertise and products to our HP-UX and OpenVMS platforms for our customers. Few people realize how extensive our OpenVMS market is, and it is important to know that IDI is one of the few companies that has had deep OpenVMS expertise for more than a decade. For this reason, we are proud to have IDI on board, serving our Integrity Server customer base and we look forward to their many continued successes." ------------------------------ Date: 16 Feb 2007 18:33:33 GMT From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) Subject: Re: OpenVMS Pearl - Press Release (check out Martin Fink's quote) Message-ID: <53mbnsF1sn92qU3@mid.individual.net> In article <1171643500.247558.180730@t69g2000cwt.googlegroups.com>, "Sue" writes: > > -----Original Message----- > From: Skonetski, Susan > Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 10:42 AM > To: Skonetski, Susan > Subject: OpenVMS Pearl - Press Release (check out Martin Fink's > quote) > > http://www.idi-middleware.com/pressrelease021507.html > > Information Design, Inc. Announces > Migration of Middleware Support Products to HP Integrity Servers > > > > Here is Martin's quote which I really like You like it when he admits his incompetence? > > Mr. Martin Fink, V.P. of the HP Business Critical Server Group stated, > "We have long appreciated IDI's reputation and capabilities as they > have applied their integration expertise and products to our HP-UX and > OpenVMS platforms for our customers. Few people realize how extensive ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > our OpenVMS market is, and it is important to know that IDI is one of ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Wouldn't increasing that number be his job? > the few companies that has had deep OpenVMS expertise for more than a > decade. For this reason, we are proud to have IDI on board, serving > our Integrity Server customer base and we look forward to their many > continued successes." Now if he could just be convinced to actually tell this to someone through whom it would actually make a difference. bill -- Bill Gunshannon | de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n. Three wolves bill@cs.scranton.edu | and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton | Scranton, Pennsylvania | #include ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 07:10:56 -0500 From: "Neil Rieck" Subject: Re: Oracle - DST 2007 heads up Message-ID: <45d4412e$0$30102$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> >"Main, Kerry" wrote in message >In addition to the above, some additional links of interest: > [...snip...] Don't forget: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_savings_time (also see Ben Franklin link at bottom) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_Policy_Act_of_2005 Neil Rieck Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge, Ontario, Canada. http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/ -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com ------------------------------ Date: 16 Feb 2007 18:24:20 GMT From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) Subject: Re: Oracle - DST 2007 heads up Message-ID: <53mb6jF1sn92qU1@mid.individual.net> In article <45d4412e$0$30102$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>, "Neil Rieck" writes: > >>"Main, Kerry" wrote in message >>In addition to the above, some additional links of interest: >> > [...snip...] > > Don't forget: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_savings_time (also see Ben Franklin > link at bottom) > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_Policy_Act_of_2005 Yeah, Daykight Saving Time. And idea that makes no sense now and would have made even less sense in the time of Ben Frankilin who is supposed to have invented it!! bill -- Bill Gunshannon | de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n. Three wolves bill@cs.scranton.edu | and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton | Scranton, Pennsylvania | #include ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 06:58:25 -0500 From: JF Mezei Subject: Status of Flight ? Message-ID: <28d78$45d59c64$cef8887a$31904@TEKSAVVY.COM> Some time ago, I exercised my rights as a non-profit hobbyist (eg: does not profit HP :-) and demanded that Flight be updated to support 24 bit graphic displays. There was mention by a well respected engineer that it could be done rather easily... But no announcements have been made since then about this being fixed... I suspect the person has had many lunch hours since that time, so there is really no excuse. (isn't most of the neat stuff added to VMS during engineers' lunch hours ?) Since then, I have had a few more thoughts on the subject. When Mr Fred decides to spend a few minutes to change a few variables and recompile Flight, could he also spend a few minutes to add one little tiny feature which would be really neat ? Perhaps during his lunch hour, Mr K could incorporate a live interface to Google Earth that would display real images of the ground below the aircraft based on its location, and provide the right image transformation/perspective corresponding to aircraft altitude and angle of view. (including curvature of earth when high enough). Real-time shading for day/night is not hard requirement at this time. Shirley, this would be trivial for an engineer of the calibre we have come to expect for VMS and wouldn't take long to implement ? In fact, I think that this SHOULD be budgeted for by VMS management since such a program would really showcase VMS as a modern operating system fully capable of making full use of the latest and greatest technologies. Flight would become something gamers would WANT to have and pout VMS out there on the map. Note: I am not (yet) demanding that he integrate the rumoured Google Moon and Google Mars products. Happy Friday ! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 13:58:45 GMT From: "FredK" Subject: Re: Status of Flight ? Message-ID: "JF Mezei" wrote in message news:28d78$45d59c64$cef8887a$31904@TEKSAVVY.COM... > Some time ago, I exercised my rights as a non-profit hobbyist (eg: does > not profit HP :-) and demanded that Flight be updated to support 24 bit > graphic displays. > > There was mention by a well respected engineer that it could be done > rather easily... Well respected? Let's poll Bill Todd ;-) I do not think I ever said anything regard to the difficulty of changing the code. I have never looked at the source code to it and do not know what tricks the code might be using that depends on psuedo-color. I believe you asked something along the lines of if it was harder to change the program, or to emulate 8-bit PseudoColor on a 24-bit display. >But no announcements have been made since then about this being fixed... I >suspect the person has had many lunch hours since that time, so there is >really no excuse. (isn't most of the neat stuff added to VMS during >engineers' lunch hours ?) > I generally do not eat lunch. > Since then, I have had a few more thoughts on the subject. > > When Mr Fred decides to spend a few minutes to change a few variables and > recompile Flight, could he also spend a few minutes to add one little tiny > feature which would be really neat ? > I do not have the source code, I suppose I could track it down. Nor have I even installed or run it since someone showed it to me when it first was written. The extent of my willingness to devote spare time to this area was in writing USB Joystick support and modifying the GLUT demo "skyfly" to use it. Essentially providing a cleaner hack than the original hack done by an "actual" well respected engineer who *is* a flight simulator junkie. > Perhaps during his lunch hour, Mr K could incorporate a live interface to > Google Earth that would display real images of the ground below the > aircraft based on its location, and provide the right image > transformation/perspective corresponding to aircraft altitude and angle of > view. (including curvature of earth when high enough). Real-time shading > for day/night is not hard requirement at this time. > You are talking to the wrong person. My younger brother is the mathmatician who owns a company that does vehicle simulators. > > Shirley, this would be trivial for an engineer of the calibre we have come > to expect for VMS and wouldn't take long to implement ? > Experience shows that the actual time to do anything is always exponentially longer than what you first think without any data. And I have no data upon which to guess. > In fact, I think that this SHOULD be budgeted for by VMS management since > such a program would really showcase VMS as a modern operating system > fully capable of making full use of the latest and greatest technologies. > Flight would become something gamers would WANT to have and pout VMS out > there on the map. > Not being a flight simulator enthusiast, but having sat next to one for many years - you need to get out more often. Flight simulators are big business and there are some very, very good ones. In fact there are some that are in the Open Source domain - so why not devote your own lunchtimes to porting one of these? Go to http://www.flightgear.org/ If you want to see what the "big boys" do, travel to the I/ITSEC conference in Orlando the week after Thanksgiving (U.S. - first week of December) which is the premier military modelling and simulation conference. > > Note: I am not (yet) demanding that he integrate the rumoured Google Moon > and Google Mars products. > If it is from Google - doesn't that mean all you need is a browser and a Java environment? > Happy Friday ! Indeed. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 07:05:33 -0500 From: "Neil Rieck" Subject: Re: Status of Flight ? Message-ID: <45d59167$0$16325$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> "JF Mezei" wrote in message news:28d78$45d59c64$cef8887a$31904@TEKSAVVY.COM... > Some time ago, I exercised my rights as a non-profit hobbyist (eg: does > not profit HP :-) and demanded that Flight be updated to support 24 bit > graphic displays. > > There was mention by a well respected engineer that it could be done > rather easily... But no announcements have been made since then about > this being fixed... I suspect the person has had many lunch hours since > that time, so there is really no excuse. (isn't most of the neat stuff > added to VMS during engineers' lunch hours ?) > > Since then, I have had a few more thoughts on the subject. > > When Mr Fred decides to spend a few minutes to change a few variables and > recompile Flight, could he also spend a few minutes to add one little tiny > feature which would be really neat ? > > Perhaps during his lunch hour, Mr K could incorporate a live interface to > Google Earth that would display real images of the ground below the > aircraft based on its location, and provide the right image > transformation/perspective corresponding to aircraft altitude and angle of > view. (including curvature of earth when high enough). Real-time shading > for day/night is not hard requirement at this time. > > > Shirley, this would be trivial for an engineer of the calibre we have come > to expect for VMS and wouldn't take long to implement ? > > In fact, I think that this SHOULD be budgeted for by VMS management since > such a program would really showcase VMS as a modern operating system > fully capable of making full use of the latest and greatest technologies. > Flight would become something gamers would WANT to have and pout VMS out > there on the map. > > > Note: I am not (yet) demanding that he integrate the rumoured Google Moon > and Google Mars products. > > Happy Friday ! Rumoured? http://www.google.com/mars/ http://moon.google.com/ (don't zoom in too close) Neil Rieck Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge, Ontario, Canada. http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/ -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com ------------------------------ End of INFO-VAX 2007.094 ************************