INFO-VAX Mon, 15 Oct 2007 Volume 2007 : Issue 563 Contents: Re: Bigger isn't always better! Re: Canadians flee Canadian socialized Hillary type healthcare for U.S. Re: Canadians flee Canadian socialized Hillary type healthcare for U.S. Re: Canadians flee Canadian socialized Hillary type healthcare for U.S. Re: Canadians flee Canadian socialized Hillary type healthcare for U.S. Re: Execute a command procedure from a detached process Re: NFS client accessing Windows acting badly (long) Re: NFS client accessing Windows acting badly (long) Re: still not convinced global warming a hoax? Re: still not convinced global warming a hoax? Re: still not convinced global warming a hoax? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 15:31:30 -0700 From: Neil Rieck Subject: Re: Bigger isn't always better! Message-ID: <1192401090.955255.148510@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com> On Oct 13, 2:43 pm, "Main, Kerry" wrote: > [...snip...] > mmmm... since the version of Samba that you likely were using is only beta FT1, I guess it would go without saying that it is not ready for production yet. Apparently, beta FT2 has only recently been announced as being available. > > Reference:http://h71000.www7.hp.com/network/CIFS_for_Samba.html > > Regards > Kerry Main > Thanks for the link Kerry but I'd like mention that the hyperlink you provided has been dead for the past half hour. Perhaps HP has got another router problem in their server room. Neil Rieck Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge, Ontario, Canada. http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/links/cool_openvms.html http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/links/openvms_demos.html ------------------------------ Date: 14 Oct 2007 13:42:53 -0500 From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) Subject: Re: Canadians flee Canadian socialized Hillary type healthcare for U.S. Message-ID: In article <1192369352.708614.154030@v29g2000prd.googlegroups.com>, ultradwc@gmail.com writes: > of course you do not like Fox because liberals do not > like debate or be challenged ... Not debate about off-topic ematerial. Find the proper newsgroup and stop polluting this one. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 15:22:33 -0700 From: Neil Rieck Subject: Re: Canadians flee Canadian socialized Hillary type healthcare for U.S. Message-ID: <1192400553.985133.261400@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com> On Oct 14, 9:42 am, ultra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Oct 13, 12:30 pm, Neil Rieck wrote: > > of course you do not like Fox because liberals do not > like debate or be challenged ... they are right and everyone > else is wrong ... Debate on Fox? You've got to be kidding me... Now since you brought up the "liberal" label I can only assume you are "conservative". I am neither. Like most people in North America, I am a centrist. And since you brought up debate I'd like to mention that most people on the "far left" or "far right" (like you) are the people who do not like debate while thinking they have the only correct postion. So why don't you sign off of here and go listen to Rush Limbaugh. NSR ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 22:39:53 -0000 From: ultradwc@gmail.com Subject: Re: Canadians flee Canadian socialized Hillary type healthcare for U.S. Message-ID: <1192401593.664639.163480@q5g2000prf.googlegroups.com> On Oct 14, 6:22 pm, Neil Rieck wrote: > On Oct 14, 9:42 am, ultra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Oct 13, 12:30 pm, Neil Rieck wrote: > > > of course you do not like Fox because liberals do not > > like debate or be challenged ... they are right and everyone > > else is wrong ... > > Debate on Fox? You've got to be kidding me... > > Now since you brought up the "liberal" label I can only assume you are > "conservative". I am neither. Like most people in North America, I am > a centrist. > > And since you brought up debate I'd like to mention that most people > on the "far left" or "far right" (like you) are the people who do not > like debate while thinking they have the only correct postion. So why > don't you sign off of here and go listen to Rush Limbaugh. > > NSR there is no such thing as the center ... you are either for or againset something ... to try to say otherwise makes you look like a confused idiot ... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 15:53:39 -0700 From: Neil Rieck Subject: Re: Canadians flee Canadian socialized Hillary type healthcare for U.S. Message-ID: <1192402419.674684.301710@v29g2000prd.googlegroups.com> On Oct 14, 6:39 pm, ultra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Oct 14, 6:22 pm, Neil Rieck wrote: > > > > > > > On Oct 14, 9:42 am, ultra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Oct 13, 12:30 pm, Neil Rieck wrote: > > > > of course you do not like Fox because liberals do not > > > like debate or be challenged ... they are right and everyone > > > else is wrong ... > > > Debate on Fox? You've got to be kidding me... > > > Now since you brought up the "liberal" label I can only assume you are > > "conservative". I am neither. Like most people in North America, I am > > a centrist. > > > And since you brought up debate I'd like to mention that most people > > on the "far left" or "far right" (like you) are the people who do not > > like debate while thinking they have the only correct postion. So why > > don't you sign off of here and go listen to Rush Limbaugh. > > > NSR > > there is no such thing as the center ... > > you are either for or againset something ... to try > to say otherwise makes you look like a confused idiot ...- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - You, sir, are the idiot. And anyone who adopts a left/right point of view before they know the issues and/or candidates are the ones who are confused. Only someone in the middle can borrow ideas from each side. BTW, I am more or less quoting Thomas Jefferson here. NSR ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 15:56:50 -0700 From: Neil Rieck Subject: Re: Execute a command procedure from a detached process Message-ID: <1192402610.196049.315060@v29g2000prd.googlegroups.com> On Oct 14, 11:16 am, "Richard B. Gilbert" wrote: > stuie_nor...@yahoo.com.au wrote: > > Dear Group, > > > I have a detached process that I wish to execute and wait for > > completion of a DCL command procedure. Since it is a detached > > process I have no CLI so I cannot use lib$do_command etc. > > > I have seen from the system services manual sys$creprc and attempted > > to use it. I have been able to create a detached process, however I > > have not been able to execute the command procedure and wait for its > > completion. > > > Is sys$creprc the correct system service to use? Does anyone have an > > example is C or Fortran that uses sys$creprc to execute and wait for > > the completion of a command procedure from a detached process. > > > Thanks > > > Stuart > > The customary trick used when you want a detached process to have DCL > available is to have it run LOGINOUT.EXE.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Yep. And here is an example stub from a real world application: $! $ run sys $system:loginout - /process_name = "Advocate_Srvr" - /uic =[346,6] - / noswap - / noresource_wait - / priv=all - /input = CSMIS $com:advocate_server_init.com - /output = CSMIS $log:advocate_server.out - /ERROR = CSMIS $log:advocate_server.err - /prior = 4 $! The file "advocate_server_init.com" could simply contain one DCL line like "$run my_app.exe" Neil Rieck Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge, Ontario, Canada. http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/links/cool_openvms.html http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/links/openvms_demos.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 08:57:13 +1000 From: Gremlin Subject: Re: NFS client accessing Windows acting badly (long) Message-ID: <13h57masm788hec@corp.supernews.com> Hi Paul That is one of the combinations that I tried and, although it maps, it won't allow me to "see" any of the folders/files.....sigh P. Sture wrote: > In article <13h3p7779620690@corp.supernews.com>, > Gremlin wrote: > >> I have also tried the following mount commands (notice the alternate or >> no use of leading / for the path): >> > tcpip mount dnfs1:[data] /system/host="dl380"/path="nfsdata"/struc=5 >> > tcpip mount dnfs1:[data] /system/host="dl380"/path="/nfsdata"/struc=5 >> > tcpip mount dnfs1:[data] /system/host="dl380"/path="\nfsdata"/struc=5 >> >> also trying >> >> > tcpip mount dnfs1: /system/host=dl380/path=nfsdata/struc=5 >> > tcpip mount dnfs1:[000000] /system/host=dl380/path=nfsdata/struc=5 >> >> and various combinations with/without the quotes. > > No Windoes box here, but here's the flavour that works to access the NFS > server on my Mac: > > $ tcpip mount dnfs2:[paul] /host="mac" - > /path="/Volumes/VMS_Backup"/system/structure=5 > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 08:59:58 +1000 From: Gremlin Subject: Re: NFS client accessing Windows acting badly (long) Message-ID: <13h57rffd9oip1e@corp.supernews.com> Hi John I am using the services on a Windows2003R2 server and they seem to work OK. I have also (intentionally) mis-mapped the permissions so that I could see the error generated in a log file on Windows. When they are mapped OK (VMS username to Windows Administrator) - the error message goes away. So, on the VMS side the username is SYSTEM and that maps to the Windows Domain Administrator account, I can't do much better than that! John E. Malmberg wrote: > Gremlin wrote: >> Hi Experts!! >> >> >> Using OpenVMS 8.2 with HP TCP/IP showing: >> [SYSMGR] > TCPIP SHO VER >> >> HP TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS Alpha Version V5.5 >> on a DEC 3000 Model 400 running OpenVMS V8.2 >> >> I have created an NFS share on a Windows2003 server using MS Windows >> Services for UNIX V3.5 (latest I can find) and it is configured and >> running happily. All my accesses are logged in Windows and none are >> creating any type of error. The Windows NFS share name is NFSDATA. > > Be aware that Windows Services for Unix is no longer supported for > Vista. The replacement product is only available in the Ultimate and > Enterprise editions, and at this time does not include an NFS server. It > is unknown if that will change. > >> From VMS, I can mount and unmount the NFS share successfully and the >> Windows log file shows the activity as being successful. The command >> I use from VMS is: >> > > >> Now, the problem is that if I try to access any files in any of the >> directories in/under that share, I get: >> >> > DIR DNFS1:[FILES] >> %DIRECT-E-OPENIN, error opening DNFS1:[FILES]*.*;* as input >> -RMS-E-DNF, directory not found >> -SYSTEM-F-TIMEOUT, device timeout > > I do not know about the timeout, however you need to make sure that you > are mapping the VMS UICs to the Windows GUIDs properly, so that Windows > uses the proper account permissions to access the file. > > I was going to look into how to do this, but a hardware failure forced > me to move to Vista, and the home editions of Vista do not allow this. > > -John > wb8tyw@qsl.network > Personal Opinion Only ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 19:45:22 -0700 From: Neil Rieck Subject: Re: still not convinced global warming a hoax? Message-ID: <1192416322.608747.37920@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> On Oct 12, 9:00 am, koeh...@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) wrote: > Congrats to Al Gore and the UN panel on the environment on the > Nobel Peace Prize. Some scientists predicted that the long sought after "North West Passage" would be permanently open sometime before 2015. Guess what? It opened last month. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6995999.stm NSR ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 00:05:15 -0400 From: JF Mezei Subject: Re: still not convinced global warming a hoax? Message-ID: Neil Rieck wrote: > Some scientists predicted that the long sought after "North West > Passage" would be permanently open sometime before 2015. Guess what? > It opened last month. And this could have huge financial implications. Panana just undertook a huge financial investment/gamble to widen the Panama canal to handle today's large ships. Northwest Passage could eliminate the need for the Panama canal at least during summer because it is a MUCH shorter shipping distance between Asia and eastern americas and europe. And lowering shipping costs could make asian products even cheaper. It would also reduce traffic at west coast USA/Canada ports as well as railway traffic. There are also large implications for Canada, but because they involve the USA not respecting our borders, I can't discuss it without AEF accusing me of hating. american citizens. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 00:12:42 -0400 From: "Richard B. Gilbert" Subject: Re: still not convinced global warming a hoax? Message-ID: <4712E8BA.6070203@comcast.net> JF Mezei wrote: > Neil Rieck wrote: > >> Some scientists predicted that the long sought after "North West >> Passage" would be permanently open sometime before 2015. Guess what? >> It opened last month. > > > And this could have huge financial implications. > > Panana just undertook a huge financial investment/gamble to widen the > Panama canal to handle today's large ships. Northwest Passage could > eliminate the need for the Panama canal at least during summer because > it is a MUCH shorter shipping distance between Asia and eastern americas > and europe. > > And lowering shipping costs could make asian products even cheaper. It > would also reduce traffic at west coast USA/Canada ports as well as > railway traffic. > > There are also large implications for Canada, but because they involve > the USA not respecting our borders, I can't discuss it without AEF > accusing me of hating. american citizens. Why do you care what AEF thinks or says? ------------------------------ End of INFO-VAX 2007.563 ************************