INFO-VAX Fri, 07 Dec 2007 Volume 2007 : Issue 670 Contents: Re: %TCPIP-E-ROUTEERROR when attempting to remove a dynamic route. Re: DECnet on Mac OS-X ? Re: DECnet on Mac OS-X ? Re: Eureka ! X on the MAC Flight simulators, was: Re: Eureka ! X on the MAC Re: InfoServers and cd-r drives Re: InfoServers and cd-r drives Re: InfoServers and cd-r drives Re: InfoServers and cd-r drives Re: VMS like search utility for Windows Re: VMS like search utility for Windows What causes a STKOVF Re: What causes a STKOVF ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2007 19:16:27 +0100 From: Albrecht Schlosser Subject: Re: %TCPIP-E-ROUTEERROR when attempting to remove a dynamic route. Message-ID: S3 wrote: > I'm running the following versions of VMS and TCPIP services.... > TCPIP> show version > DIGITAL TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS Alpha Version V5.0A > on a COMPAQ AlphaServer DS20E 500 MHzP running OpenVMS V7.2-1 > > These are the routes defined in the dynamic table.... > > TCPIP> show route > DYNAMIC > Type Destination Gateway > DN 10.0.0.0/ 8 172.16.1.12 > AH 10.35.174.0 172.16.1.12 > DH 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 > AN 172.0.0.0/ 8 172.16.1.102 > DN 172.16.0.0/16 172.16.1.22 > DH 172.16.1.22 172.16.1.102 > AN 172.20.0.0/16 172.16.1.8 > DN 172.20.0.0/16 172.16.1.102 > AN 172.40.0.0/16 172.20.251.9 > DH 172.40.80.4 6.4.0.0 > AH 172.40.81.2 6.4.0.0 > > When I try to remove routes to the 6.4.0.0 gateway, I get this > error... > TCPIP> set noroute 172.40.80.4 /gateway=6.4.0.0 > %TCPIP-E-ROUTEERROR, error accessing routes database (TCPIP$ROUTE) > -SYSTEM-F-BADPARAM, bad parameter value > > Any idea to how to fix this? Maybe, I got similar errors some time ago. Two possibilities: (1) does TCPIP 5.0A already have tcpip$define_commands.com in SYS$STARTUP (search list logical name) directory. If yes, then do @sys$startup:tcpip$define_commands.com and use the route command - this may work. Use netstat -r to list the routes. (2) Look at the output of $ TCPIP sho comm $ TCPIP sho conf comm Is there anything strange with the domain name? If yes, correct it, and try the set noroute command again. HTH Albrecht ------------------------------ Date: 7 Dec 2007 06:08:45 -0600 From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) Subject: Re: DECnet on Mac OS-X ? Message-ID: In article , Bob Harris writes: > Minor clarification about PATHWORKS for Mac and PATHWORKS for > OpenVMS (Macintosh). > > Thursby Systems did provide the DECnet componet, and they even did > the custom rebranding for us. > > However, the entire Macintosh PATHWORKS product set contained > major components from Alisa Systems, Apple, and Digital, with a > lot of integration and documentation work by Digital. DECnet is the only component I have ever used on the Macintosh. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 13:23:25 +0100 From: usenet@hoffart.de (Goetz Hoffart) Subject: Re: DECnet on Mac OS-X ? Message-ID: <1i8r6fp.1j5j434avmqx6N%usenet@hoffart.de> Larry Kilgallen wrote: > DECnet is the only component I have ever used on the Macintosh. Are there any of these products available for hobbyists? I've got OpenVMS 7.2 on an AlphaServer 2100(a), a PWS 433, a VAXstation and enough Macs of all kinds and would like to connect them to the VMS boxes. I was looking for AlisaTalk for VMS (VAX-VMS, of course) but couldn't find it. Same for Pathworks for Macintosh. Are there any retail dealers selling old VMS software? Regards Götz -- http://www.knubbelmac.de/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2007 06:12:38 -0500 From: JF Mezei Subject: Re: Eureka ! X on the MAC Message-ID: Another thing I forgot to mention: To get raw X windows into the MAC, you also need to go into the System Preferences , Internet & Network , Sharing Click on the "Firewall" tab and then you need to create another entry for X-Windows, allowing ports 6000-6100 onto the mac. With Tiger, I haven't yet found how the firewall can restrict inbound calls to certain IP ranges or exclude IP ranges. (I suspect this may have to be done at the unix level). This is an area where VMS is better documented. ------------------------------ Date: 7 Dec 2007 06:22:42 -0600 From: clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP (Simon Clubley) Subject: Flight simulators, was: Re: Eureka ! X on the MAC Message-ID: <3D9iUDd4hyIe@eisner.encompasserve.org> In article <7f2dd$4758c118$cef8887a$17762@TEKSAVVY.COM>, JF Mezei writes: > > Now the VMS flight simulator won't run on modern alphas with modern > graphics card unless you reconfigure and reboot into 256 colour mode. > Not exactly "compatible". > > Low and behold comes the Macintosh which is more compatible than an alpha ! > > Yes sirs and mississes , you heard it here ! I finally, after over a > year of abstinence, got flight to run, but this time, it ran on the MAC > display !!!!! > Of course, you could just run a modern flight simulator on your Mac. :-) Have a look at http://www.flightgear.org/ if you are interested. Disclaimer: I do all my simulator work on Linux, and I've never used OS X so I don't know if there are any Mac specific issues. Note that you will need a hardware accelerated graphics card. Simon. -- Simon Clubley, clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP Microsoft: Bringing you 1980's technology to a 21st century world ------------------------------ Date: 7 Dec 2007 06:11:49 -0600 From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) Subject: Re: InfoServers and cd-r drives Message-ID: In article , VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG writes: > In article , "tomarsin2015@comcast.net" writes: >> >> >>Hello >>Installed the cd-r function on a InfoServer 100. I replaced one of the >>RRD42 with a HP CD-writer plus 9200 series (8x4x32x) hoping that the >>cd-r function would see the writer. No such luck. So I was wondering >>what old type cd writers worked under the cd-r function. The cd-r in >>the manual is a Sony CDW-900E. Ebay (acourse) has 1 going for >>24.00(US) in a external case. Tks for any info. >>phil > > The IS doc listed "suupported" drives. At the time, they were all 1x > burners save for perhaps one at 2x. I thought the cd-r (Scribe) function was only supported on the Infoserver 1000. Has anyone ever known it to work on the 100 or 150 ? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2007 12:38:33 GMT From: VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG Subject: Re: InfoServers and cd-r drives Message-ID: In article , Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) writes: > > >In article , VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG writes: >> In article , "tomarsin2015@comcast.net" writes: >>> >>> >>>Hello >>>Installed the cd-r function on a InfoServer 100. I replaced one of the >>>RRD42 with a HP CD-writer plus 9200 series (8x4x32x) hoping that the >>>cd-r function would see the writer. No such luck. So I was wondering >>>what old type cd writers worked under the cd-r function. The cd-r in >>>the manual is a Sony CDW-900E. Ebay (acourse) has 1 going for >>>24.00(US) in a external case. Tks for any info. >>>phil >> >> The IS doc listed "suupported" drives. At the time, they were all 1x >> burners save for perhaps one at 2x. > >I thought the cd-r (Scribe) function was only supported on the >Infoserver 1000. Has anyone ever known it to work on the 100 >or 150 ? My recollection was that Scribe was sold when the IS1000s were being produced. I have no information on whether or not it is supported on the IS1000 only. Since the function enabler CD images have been put on the freeware, I may try these on my IS1000 and IS150. However, without a CD recorder which will be recognized by the Scribe function, this effort may be a waste of time. I'm busy porting some interesting code to Itanium, so I don't expect to drop that and delve into this IS issue anytime soon; especially, since I have a high-speed SCSI CD burner hanging off of my Alpha. -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?" http://tmesis.com/drat.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 09:22:01 -0800 (PST) From: "johnhreinhardt@yahoo.com" Subject: Re: InfoServers and cd-r drives Message-ID: On Dec 6, 2:37 pm, "tomarsin2...@comcast.net" wrote: > Hello > Installed the cd-r function on a InfoServer 100. I replaced one of the > RRD42 with a HP CD-writer plus 9200 series (8x4x32x) hoping that the > cd-r function would see the writer. No such luck. So I was wondering > what old type cd writers worked under the cd-r function. The cd-r in > the manual is a Sony CDW-900E. Ebay (acourse) has 1 going for > 24.00(US) in a external case. Tks for any info. > phil There is a short list of drives "reported to work" in an article on Hoff's site ( http://64.223.189.234/node/610 ) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2007 20:19:18 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Uusim=E4ki?= Subject: Re: InfoServers and cd-r drives Message-ID: <47598af6$0$27846$9b536df3@news.fv.fi> johnhreinhardt@yahoo.com wrote: > On Dec 6, 2:37 pm, "tomarsin2...@comcast.net" > wrote: >> Hello >> Installed the cd-r function on a InfoServer 100. I replaced one of the >> RRD42 with a HP CD-writer plus 9200 series (8x4x32x) hoping that the >> cd-r function would see the writer. No such luck. So I was wondering >> what old type cd writers worked under the cd-r function. The cd-r in >> the manual is a Sony CDW-900E. Ebay (acourse) has 1 going for >> 24.00(US) in a external case. Tks for any info. >> phil > > There is a short list of drives "reported to work" in an article on > Hoff's site ( http://64.223.189.234/node/610 ) And the officially supported drives are listed in the Infoserver software (v. 3.5) SPD: http://h18000.www1.hp.com/info/SP3320/SP3320PF.PDF Regards, Kari ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 11:56:32 +0000 (UTC) From: Matthias Maisenbacher Subject: Re: VMS like search utility for Windows Message-ID: Bob Koehler schrieb: > None of the UNIX I have ship with gnu grep's ability to show > unmatching lines surrounding the matching lines (equivalent of > /WINDOW in VMS SEARCH). And none of them ship with the ability to search for two different strings. For me this is the most missed feature of VMS search. In DCL you could type: $ search example.txt sun,moon and would get the lines containing "sun" AND the lines containing "moon". Any idea for replacing this behaviour on DOS/Windows/Linux? Thanks a lot Matthias Maisenbacher (developping and running programs under Windows but still having the source code in CMS :-) ------------------------------ Date: 7 Dec 2007 12:07:20 GMT From: billg999@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) Subject: Re: VMS like search utility for Windows Message-ID: <5rsrboF16jgv4U1@mid.individual.net> In article , Matthias Maisenbacher writes: > Bob Koehler schrieb: >> None of the UNIX I have ship with gnu grep's ability to show >> unmatching lines surrounding the matching lines (equivalent of >> /WINDOW in VMS SEARCH). > And none of them ship with the ability to search for two different strings. > For me this is the most missed feature of VMS search. > > In DCL you could type: > $ search example.txt sun,moon > and would get the lines containing "sun" AND the lines containing "moon". > > Any idea for replacing this behaviour on DOS/Windows/Linux? grep -e sun -e moon "filename" bill -- Bill Gunshannon | de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n. Three wolves bill@cs.scranton.edu | and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton | Scranton, Pennsylvania | #include ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 07:36:49 -0800 (PST) From: Joe Sewell Subject: What causes a STKOVF Message-ID: <9c4c8fdd-d290-41b3-9a54-26dc8278bad2@f3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> The following involves OpenVMS V8.3A with various ECOs applied. It happens in a DECwindows app. I'd have to find out hardware & firmware details, if necessary. Okay, I've read the OpenVMS FAQ and the pertinent portions of Hoff's Wizard stuff on stack overflow exceptions, but most of them simply say "get a reproducer and talk with the support center." First off, I don't know how to reproduce the particular stack overflow we're seeing (it's in a large multiprocess system with external inputs out the wazoo); I'm not even sure I know if it was operator actions that caused it or the external inputs. The code for just the one process that got the SS$_STKOVF exception is huge. What I need is an idea of when the RTL or lower layers detect a "stack overflow" in a non-threaded situation (though it's a DECwindows app, just in case it's multithreading for some reason), so I might get some idea of where to look. (The place where the exception happened didn't reveal too much.) It sounds like the RTL actually pre-checks for a case where pushing n bytes onto the stack would cause the stack to overflow the thread's stated stack size (in a multithreaded app), and signal SS$_STKOVF before it goes off the deep end. What does it do for a single threaded app? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 08:34:45 -0800 (PST) From: Volker Halle Subject: Re: What causes a STKOVF Message-ID: <996f2fd0-9b8f-456e-87d8-212d36fcca0c@l16g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> Joe, can you create a process dump ? SET PROC/DUMP before running the image or use RUN/DUMP for a detached process. Then you have the complete process address space (including the stack) available for analysis with ANAL/PROC. Volker. ------------------------------ End of INFO-VAX 2007.670 ************************