INFO-VAX Sun, 13 Jan 2008 Volume 2008 : Issue 26 Contents: Re: Anyway to "smarten up" the console terminal? Changing passwords Re: Changing passwords Re: Changing passwords Re: Changing passwords DS10 failed to boot Re: DS10 failed to boot Re: DS10 failed to boot F$UNIQUE library function Re: IA64 VMS installation DVD creation. RE: IA64 VMS installation DVD creation. Re: IA64 VMS installation DVD creation. Re: IA64 VMS installation DVD creation. NFS and version numbers Re: NFS and version numbers Re: NFS and version numbers Re: OT - EISNER:: upgrade complete (was:Re: default e-mail editor) Re: password-less SSH authentication Re: password-less SSH authentication Re: password-less SSH authentication Re: print queues and IP Re: print queues and IP Re: print queues and IP Re: run /detached always fails with loginout.exe Re: run /detached always fails with loginout.exe tuning ACP_DIRCACHE Re: tuning ACP_DIRCACHE Re: USB-stick ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 10:23:48 -0500 From: "FredK" Subject: Re: Anyway to "smarten up" the console terminal? Message-ID: Seriously? You want someone (me) to enhance the console code for a DEC3000? The graphics on this predate those with VGA text mode. The code lives in a device driver that does it's own bitmapped text. It is pretty much what you got with a VAXstation 1. The intent of the graphics based console was to provide the minimum needed to allow limited console interaction. Start DECwindows if you want a real terminal - or plug in a real terminal or PC with a terminal emulator. I "threw in" a simple VT52 emulation when I did the VGA text mode logic that at least allows EDIT/EDT to work for the most part. It probably also works on the last generation of the TGA without VGA text mode... but I do not believe I even attempted to retrofit it to the TurboChannel based systems. I made provisions in the code when I wrote the Itanium VGA text mode boot driver to allow me to implement a VT100-like emulation should I ever get free time to do it. But that is about the limit of what is reasonable to shoe-horn into a device driver (trust me, I wrote the VWS terminal emulator entirely as a device driver - and it is something that is a full time job to get right). "Slor" wrote in message news:Xns9A2320B72F7B7emuslor@216.196.97.136... > This may be a really silly question, but here goes anyway... > > I have OpenVMS 8.3 running on an old DEC 3000 with only 64MB of memory. > Following suggestions from this group based on this system's specs, I > chose > not to install any of the windowing components, so my console is the basic > black text screen. A bit of web searching tells me that this console is > pretty much as dumb as it gets, so there's really no valid terminal type > to > be used unless some helper like DECWindows is loaded and doing terminal > emulation in its windows. My question - is there any other way to get the > physical console to behave in a more full-featured manner for screen- > oriented text apps, command line editing support, etc.? > > Obviously, I can emulate any sort of console I want using SSH/telnet or > even a serial console connection, but I'm interested in whether or not > there is any solution for the local console. > > thanks! > > -- > James > http://www.e-host-direct.com > Reliable web hosting from $12/year. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 07:33:37 -0800 (PST) From: rtk Subject: Changing passwords Message-ID: Greetings! I only use my old Alpha box periodically (VMS 7.3) and every time I log back in I need to change my now expired password. So, here's my question, how can I keep passwords from expiring at all or, if that is not possible, disable the history list so I can use the same one repeatedly? Thanks! Ron ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 07:38:14 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Gezelter Subject: Re: Changing passwords Message-ID: <215e3245-6897-4260-b41e-5a626285553f@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com> On Jan 13, 10:33 am, rtk wrote: > Greetings! > > I only use my old Alpha box periodically (VMS 7.3) and every time I > log back in I need to change my now expired password. So, here's my > question, how can I keep passwords from expiring at all or, if that is > not possible, disable the history list so I can use the same one > repeatedly? > > Thanks! > > Ron Ron, Presuming that you are the system manager (or have sufficient privileges), the password lifetime is modified using the AUTHORIZE utility. You will find the documentation of this online, within the AUTHORIZE utility, by entering HELP MODIFY /PWDLIFETIME (/NOPWDLIFETIME or / PWDLIFETIME=NONE disables password expiration). - Bob Gezelter, http://www.rlgsc.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 08:14:26 -0800 (PST) From: rtk Subject: Re: Changing passwords Message-ID: <15ade12c-fa96-4b93-8331-287c3db773a8@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com> On Jan 13, 8:38 am, Bob Gezelter wrote: > > You will find the documentation of this online, within the AUTHORIZE > utility, by entering HELP MODIFY /PWDLIFETIME (/NOPWDLIFETIME or / > PWDLIFETIME=NONE disables password expiration). Bob, this appears to have worked, thank you. Do you know how to clear the password history file so I can set my, hopefully final, password to the one I want? Ron ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 08:39:13 -0800 (PST) From: H Vlems Subject: Re: Changing passwords Message-ID: <15e981b4-6ecc-492e-954a-3ab921ed1402@v67g2000hse.googlegroups.com> On 13 jan, 17:14, rtk wrote: > On Jan 13, 8:38 am, Bob Gezelter wrote: > > > > > You will find the documentation of this online, within the AUTHORIZE > > utility, by entering HELP MODIFY /PWDLIFETIME (/NOPWDLIFETIME or / > > PWDLIFETIME=3DNONE disables password expiration). > > Bob, this appears to have worked, thank you. =A0Do you know how to clear > the password history file so I can set my, hopefully final, password > to the one I want? > > Ron Use AUTHORIZE, that way you'll bypass the history file. Hans ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 10:45:48 +0100 From: Ulrich Bellgardt Subject: DS10 failed to boot Message-ID: Hello, one of the DS10 computers in my company recently failed to boot. It recognised all SCSI disks, it started booting OpenVMS (7.3-2), but then it was stuck in a very early stage of the booting procedure. It did not crash, but it did not do any disk access or any other activity. Control-P could bring it back to the console prompt >>. I did not know what the colleagues have done before, nor did I know which software products are on that machine, so I tried to perform a minimum boot, but that showed the same result. Finally (and because I had no other idea) I switched off the box and disconnected the A/C power cable for a couple of seconds. After that, the computer booted as it always did. Of course I dislike this kind of voodoo, and prefer to understand what happens. So, my questions are: Can somebody give an "educated guess" or even an explanation of what happened and why the power-up repaired everything? Does this indicate some dying hardware component so that we can expect more serious trouble in the near future? Thank you, -Uli Bellgardt ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 13:18:34 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Uusim=E4ki?= Subject: Re: DS10 failed to boot Message-ID: <4789f2a8$0$15000$9b536df3@news.fv.fi> Ulrich Bellgardt wrote: > Hello, > > one of the DS10 computers in my company recently failed to boot. It > recognised all SCSI disks, it started booting OpenVMS (7.3-2), but then > it was stuck in a very early stage of the booting procedure. It did not > crash, but it did not do any disk access or any other activity. > Control-P could bring it back to the console prompt >>. > > I did not know what the colleagues have done before, nor did I know > which software products are on that machine, so I tried to perform a > minimum boot, but that showed the same result. > > Finally (and because I had no other idea) I switched off the box and > disconnected the A/C power cable for a couple of seconds. After that, > the computer booted as it always did. Of course I dislike this kind of > voodoo, and prefer to understand what happens. > > So, my questions are: > > Can somebody give an "educated guess" or even an explanation of what > happened and why the power-up repaired everything? > > Does this indicate some dying hardware component so that we can expect > more serious trouble in the near future? > > Thank you, > > -Uli Bellgardt Hi Uli, Sounds like a possible memory problem. I suggest you run the memexer a few times from the console. That should bring up the DIMM which has a problem. Then you can replace the failing DIMM. Do remember that the DIMMs must be exactly similar in the set of four. Good luck! Kari ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 08:50:19 -0800 (PST) From: H Vlems Subject: Re: DS10 failed to boot Message-ID: <274a5775-49ca-4aac-a953-64d211638ea9@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com> On 13 jan, 10:45, Ulrich Bellgardt wrote: > Hello, > > one of the DS10 computers in my company recently failed to boot. It > recognised all SCSI disks, it started booting OpenVMS (7.3-2), but then > it was stuck in a very early stage of the booting procedure. It did not > crash, but it did not do any disk access or any other activity. > Control-P could bring it back to the console prompt >>. > > I did not know what the colleagues have done before, nor did I know > which software products are on that machine, so I tried to perform a > minimum boot, but that showed the same result. > > Finally (and because I had no other idea) I switched off the box and > disconnected the A/C power cable for a couple of seconds. After that, > the computer booted as it always did. Of course I dislike this kind of > voodoo, and prefer to understand what happens. > > So, my questions are: > > Can somebody give an "educated guess" or even an explanation of what > happened and why the power-up repaired everything? > > Does this indicate some dying hardware component so that we can expect > more serious trouble in the near future? > > Thank you, > > -Uli Bellgardt As Kari mentioned in another post, this could be a memory problem. There are a couple of things you can do, other than waiting for the box to fail completely. 1) look at the OPERATOR.LOG files, especially the versions that belong to the unsuccesful boot attempts 2) you might want to add some write sys$output messages in SYSTARTUP_VMS.COM so you'll know how far VMS gets next time 3) inspect the error log (and try $ SHOW ERRORS) 4) use DECevent to report possible hardware errors Hardware errors usually don't just fade away. You switched off the system and after a while powered it on again Did you notice any strange sounds? I know, in a large computer room the noise around you makes this rather difficult. But you might just as well have a dust problem and inefficient fans mean an increased internal temperature. Perhaps a DS10 should power off automatically? Hans ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 10:36:00 -0800 (PST) From: yyyc186 Subject: F$UNIQUE library function Message-ID: Here's a little oddity. I don't find a SYS$ version of F$UNIQUE like most of the other lexical functions have. Did HP once again breech the tradition or did they stick it in a LIB$ function some where? ------------------------------ Date: 13 Jan 2008 06:55:16 -0600 From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) Subject: Re: IA64 VMS installation DVD creation. Message-ID: In article , VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG writes: > VAX pretty much predates the internet so I would have expected the model > to include such downloads. However, since the introduction of the Alpha, > patch kits and various other layer products have been downloadable. I thought the discussion was operating systems, which have historically been treated differently. I believe any full layered product availability for download has been due to irregular release schedules compared to Product Library shipments. That cannot be the case with VMS, since it ships on its own discs. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 15:17:50 +0000 From: "Main, Kerry" Subject: RE: IA64 VMS installation DVD creation. Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Larry Kilgallen [mailto:Kilgallen@SpamCop.net] > Sent: January 13, 2008 7:55 AM > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com > Subject: Re: IA64 VMS installation DVD creation. > > In article , VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG > writes: > > > VAX pretty much predates the internet so I would have expected the > model > > to include such downloads. However, since the introduction of the > Alpha, > > patch kits and various other layer products have been downloadable. > > I thought the discussion was operating systems, which have historically > been treated differently. > > I believe any full layered product availability for download has been > due to irregular release schedules compared to Product Library > shipments. > That cannot be the case with VMS, since it ships on its own discs. As fyi to all - For those with contracts, OpenVMS LP's have been available online for download for awhile now. Reference: http://h30266.www3.hp.com/ (home page) http://h30266.www3.hp.com/DownLoadDetails.shtml (downloads) http://h30266.www3.hp.com/MasterIndex/consolidations_external.shtml (directory) Regards Kerry Main Senior Consultant HP Services Canada Voice: 613-592-4660 Fax: 613-591-4477 kerryDOTmainAThpDOTcom (remove the DOT's and AT) OpenVMS - the secure, multi-site OS that just works. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 16:06:44 +0100 From: "P. Sture" Subject: Re: IA64 VMS installation DVD creation. Message-ID: In article , Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) wrote: > In article , VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG writes: > > > VAX pretty much predates the internet so I would have expected the model > > to include such downloads. However, since the introduction of the Alpha, > > patch kits and various other layer products have been downloadable. > > I thought the discussion was operating systems, which have historically > been treated differently. > > I believe any full layered product availability for download has been > due to irregular release schedules compared to Product Library shipments. > That cannot be the case with VMS, since it ships on its own discs. If we look at other operating systems, you can download various Linux and Unix variants and Solaris for PC systems. However, you cannot do that (except as an early adoptor perhaps) for Windows, OS X and probably quite a few others. In this regard VMS is the same. The only times I have acquired an early release of VMS were via a non-official looking tape from the local DEC/Compaq/HP office. -- Paul Sture Sue's OpenVMS bookmarks: http://eisner.encompasserve.org/~sture/ovms-bookmarks.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 16:40:29 GMT From: "John E. Malmberg" Subject: Re: IA64 VMS installation DVD creation. Message-ID: <1arij.34009$Ux2.964@attbi_s22> P. Sture wrote: > > If we look at other operating systems, you can download various Linux > and Unix variants and Solaris for PC systems. > > However, you cannot do that (except as an early adoptor perhaps) for > Windows, OS X and probably quite a few others. In this regard VMS is the > same. The only times I have acquired an early release of VMS were via a > non-official looking tape from the local DEC/Compaq/HP office. If you have the appropriate level MSDN contract with Microsoft, all of their products are available for download, both current and pre-release versions. Microsoft charges more for actually shipping the CD-ROMS/DVDs. -John wb8tyw@qsl.network Personal Opinion Only ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 02:55:45 -0500 From: JF Mezei Subject: NFS and version numbers Message-ID: <4789c4bc$0$22076$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> Due to a rare alignement of the stars relative to the direction of the wind and the happiness level of the neighbour's dog, I found myself with a mounted NFS drive on my mac. I can now use the finder on the Mac to display files on my VMS SYS$LOGIN. I have no idea whether this is repeatable or not. I haven't dared reboot my Mac :-) However I am not too happy with the way VMS maps version numbers. for instance: LOGIN.COM.60 LOGIN.COM.61 But when only a single version exists: ALPHAPOWERED.GIF And from command line, I can do a : brakes:/disk2 JFMEZEI$ ls login.com login.com (it comes out without the version number added to the file name). I looked at the documentation, and it appears the only option is to force a version number "extension" to be added to all file names even when there is only one version available. Does anyone know if there is an option/logical that can be set to never have a version number shown and only the latest version of a file displayed ? (like the FTP server has). On a mac, having extension numbers added as an extension ruins the ability for the mac to select the right application to open that file). (aka: the mac would see chocolate.gif.27 as the same file type as chocolate.txt.27 ) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 08:52:48 -0800 (PST) From: H Vlems Subject: Re: NFS and version numbers Message-ID: <599d77b0-c547-453d-8281-26c402d601ba@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com> On 13 jan, 08:55, JF Mezei wrote: > Due to a rare alignement of the stars relative to the direction of the > wind and the happiness level of the neighbour's dog, I found myself with > a mounted NFS drive on my mac. I can now use the finder on the Mac to > display files on my VMS SYS$LOGIN. =A0I have no idea whether this is > repeatable or not. I haven't dared reboot my Mac :-) > > However I am not too happy with the way VMS maps version numbers. > > for instance: > > LOGIN.COM.60 > LOGIN.COM.61 > > But when only a single version exists: > > ALPHAPOWERED.GIF > > And from command line, I can do a : > > brakes:/disk2 JFMEZEI$ ls login.com > login.com > > (it comes out without the version number added to the file name). > > I looked at the documentation, and it appears the only option is to > force a version number "extension" to be added to all file names even > when there is only one version available. > > Does anyone know if there is an option/logical that can be set to never > have a version number shown and only the latest version of a file > displayed ? (like the FTP server has). > > On a mac, having extension numbers added as an extension ruins the > ability for the mac to select the right application to open that file). > (aka: the mac would see =A0chocolate.gif.27 as the same file type as > chocolate.txt.27 ) PURGE? (OK JF, cheap shot I know...) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 08:54:31 -0800 (PST) From: H Vlems Subject: Re: NFS and version numbers Message-ID: <7dbaa380-70fe-4348-b86b-ec3ffdf98af2@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com> On 13 jan, 08:55, JF Mezei wrote: > Due to a rare alignement of the stars relative to the direction of the > wind and the happiness level of the neighbour's dog, I found myself with > a mounted NFS drive on my mac. I can now use the finder on the Mac to > display files on my VMS SYS$LOGIN. =A0I have no idea whether this is > repeatable or not. I haven't dared reboot my Mac :-) > > However I am not too happy with the way VMS maps version numbers. > > for instance: > > LOGIN.COM.60 > LOGIN.COM.61 > > But when only a single version exists: > > ALPHAPOWERED.GIF > > And from command line, I can do a : > > brakes:/disk2 JFMEZEI$ ls login.com > login.com > > (it comes out without the version number added to the file name). > > I looked at the documentation, and it appears the only option is to > force a version number "extension" to be added to all file names even > when there is only one version available. > > Does anyone know if there is an option/logical that can be set to never > have a version number shown and only the latest version of a file > displayed ? (like the FTP server has). > > On a mac, having extension numbers added as an extension ruins the > ability for the mac to select the right application to open that file). > (aka: the mac would see =A0chocolate.gif.27 as the same file type as > chocolate.txt.27 ) SET DIR/VERSION_LIMIT=3D1 The mac can't handle version numbers anyway so why maintain them on an NFS server for it. Hans ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 01:32:17 -0800 (PST) From: Crni Gorac Subject: Re: OT - EISNER:: upgrade complete (was:Re: default e-mail editor) Message-ID: On Jan 13, 2:27 am, VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote: > > [ ... ] > > I hope the original poster of this thread can figure out how to invoke VIM > from the command procedure I posted. I'm not sure how to tell VIM to write > out to the P2 filename. It's a no brainer to have it read the P1 filename. I haven't, and I decided to just stick with EDT for while. Nevertheless, thanks for the script you posted - it helps to understand the procedure. Regards, Crni ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 02:09:17 -0800 (PST) From: Crni Gorac Subject: Re: password-less SSH authentication Message-ID: On Jan 12, 4:11 pm, s...@antinode.org (Steven M. Schweda) wrote: > From: Crni Gorac > > > What should be the name of file with public SSH keys, and in which > > directory this file should be stored on OpenVMS? > > Under SYS$LOGIN, [.SSH2]AUTHORIZATION. holds the names of public key > files. Mine looks like this: > > alp $ type [.ssh2]authorization. > KEY SMS_ID_DSA_1024_A.PUB > KEY SMS_NPP_ID_DSA_1024_A.PUB > alp $ > > Note that this file contains names of other files which contain the key > data. It does not contain the actual key data (as "authorized_keys" > would). > > [ ... ] > Would it be possible for you to post "DIR /PROT" output for [.SSH2], [.SSH2].AUTHORIZATION, and [.SSH2].SMS_ID_DSA_1024_A.PUB on your machine? Look like SSH_KEYGEN command is not available at EISNER::, so I tried to create the layout you described manually, but it still doesn't work... The "ssh -vv" output is not helpful, I tried on the first time, here is the relevant part: ----------------------------- debug1: Authentications that can continue: kerberos- tgt-2@ssh.com,kerberos-2@ssh.com,publickey,password debug1: Next authentication method: publickey debug1: Offering public key: /home/cgorac/.ssh/id_rsa debug2: we sent a publickey packet, wait for reply debug1: Authentications that can continue: kerberos- tgt-2@ssh.com,kerberos-2@ssh.com,publickey,password debug1: Offering public key: /home/cgorac/.ssh/id_dsa debug2: we sent a publickey packet, wait for reply debug1: Authentications that can continue: kerberos- tgt-2@ssh.com,kerberos-2@ssh.com,publickey,password debug2: we did not send a packet, disable method debug1: Next authentication method: password ----------------------------- My public key file, created on Unix, is in following format: ssh-dss "now base64 encoded key" cgorac@home I'd appreciate if you could also point differences between this format, and the format of public key file generated on VMS... Thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 13:20:58 GMT From: VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG Subject: Re: password-less SSH authentication Message-ID: <_eoij.1$nH6.0@newsfe09.lga> In article , Crni Gorac writes: > > >On Jan 12, 4:11 pm, s...@antinode.org (Steven M. Schweda) wrote: >> From: Crni Gorac >> >> > What should be the name of file with public SSH keys, and in which >> > directory this file should be stored on OpenVMS? >> >> Under SYS$LOGIN, [.SSH2]AUTHORIZATION. holds the names of public key >> files. Mine looks like this: >> >> alp $ type [.ssh2]authorization. >> KEY SMS_ID_DSA_1024_A.PUB >> KEY SMS_NPP_ID_DSA_1024_A.PUB >> alp $ >> >> Note that this file contains names of other files which contain the key >> data. It does not contain the actual key data (as "authorized_keys" >> would). >> >> [ ... ] >> > >Would it be possible for you to post "DIR /PROT" output for [.SSH2], >[.SSH2].AUTHORIZATION, and [.SSH2].SMS_ID_DSA_1024_A.PUB on your >machine? Look like SSH_KEYGEN command is not available at EISNER::, >so I tried to create the layout you described manually, but it still >doesn't work... The "ssh -vv" output is not helpful, I tried on the >first time, here is the relevant part: >------------------------------ >debug1: Authentications that can continue: kerberos- >tgt-2@ssh.com,kerberos-2@ssh.com,publickey,password >debug1: Next authentication method: publickey >debug1: Offering public key: /home/cgorac/.ssh/id_rsa >debug2: we sent a publickey packet, wait for reply >debug1: Authentications that can continue: kerberos- >tgt-2@ssh.com,kerberos-2@ssh.com,publickey,password >debug1: Offering public key: /home/cgorac/.ssh/id_dsa >debug2: we sent a publickey packet, wait for reply >debug1: Authentications that can continue: kerberos- >tgt-2@ssh.com,kerberos-2@ssh.com,publickey,password >debug2: we did not send a packet, disable method >debug1: Next authentication method: password >------------------------------ > >My public key file, created on Unix, is in following format: >ssh-dss "now base64 encoded key" cgorac@home >I'd appreciate if you could also point differences between this >format, and the format of public key file generated on VMS... > >Thanks. EISNER has MultiNet installed for TCP/IP. I might suggest that if you don't get a specific answer here regarding your issue that you post your questions to newsgroup:vmsnet.networks.tcp-ip.multinet -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?" http://tmesis.com/drat.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 06:05:35 -0800 (PST) From: Crni Gorac Subject: Re: password-less SSH authentication Message-ID: <544fab62-9bd7-4067-a44c-2efa7f4da1b6@c4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> On Jan 13, 2:20 pm, VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote: > EISNER has MultiNet installed for TCP/IP. I might suggest that if you don't > get a specific answer here regarding your issue that you post your questions > to newsgroup:vmsnet.networks.tcp-ip.multinet Thanks for another great tip - after some digging through archives of above group, I have it working now. It appears that MultiNet is expecting public keys in RFC 4716 format. So, to make it work: 1. I've created [.SSH2] directory on EISNER:: 2. on my Unix machine, that have OpenSSH installed, I exported my public key to RFC 4716 format through "ssh-keygen -e -f ~/.ssh/id_dsa >id_dsa.4716" 3. I've copied this file to my [.SSH2] directory at EISNER:: 4. I've created [.SSH2]AUTHORIZATION. file on EISNER::, consisting of the line "KEY ID_DSA.4716" Hope this may help someone, sometimes. ------------------------------ Date: 13 Jan 2008 12:27:34 +0100 From: eplan@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER) Subject: Re: print queues and IP Message-ID: <478a03b6$1@news.langstoeger.at> In article , H Vlems writes: >IIRC the TCPIP$TELNETSYM processor is needed, but where do I put the >IP address? The TCPIP$TELNETSYM is only needed for pure TCPIP. As is the TCPWARE_TSSYM for pure TCPware. As is ... for pure Multinet. But consider using DCPS and you're independant of the IP stack beneath. http://www.compaq.com/info/SP4415/SP4415PF.PDF -- Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER Network and OpenVMS system specialist E-mail peter@langstoeger.at A-1030 VIENNA AUSTRIA I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 14:01:06 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Uusim=E4ki?= Subject: Re: print queues and IP Message-ID: <4789fca0$0$14990$9b536df3@news.fv.fi> H Vlems wrote: > Yesterday I bought an Alpha Server 1200 5/400 (a blue one, not a white > box alpha). Since it is too heavy to put it in the same room as the > others as yet, it sits noisily in the living room. The only available > printer there is an old HP2100 with an IP printserver. > I want to create a printerqueue that allows me to print to that > HP2100, its IP address is 10.0.0.102. > IIRC the TCPIP$TELNETSYM processor is needed, but where do I put the > IP address? > Hans > Why not use the DCPS? It is very easy to use and supports a wealth of different printers and almost any type of connection. It makes it possible to print PS etc. http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/82final/dcps/dcps025_release_notes.PDF And the Hobbyist license kit includes DCPS licenses. Kari ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 08:59:04 -0800 (PST) From: H Vlems Subject: Re: print queues and IP Message-ID: <3c49715d-a213-4011-bfc3-3a844d6da5dc@k2g2000hse.googlegroups.com> On 12 jan, 23:39, Jan-Erik S=F6derholm wrote: > H Vlems wrote: > > Yesterday I bought an Alpha Server 1200 5/400 (a blue one, not a white > > box alpha). Since it is too heavy to put it in the same room as the > > others as yet, it sits noisily in the living room. The only available > > printer there is an old HP2100 with an IP printserver. > > I want to create a printerqueue that allows me to print to that > > HP2100, its IP address is 10.0.0.102. > > IIRC the TCPIP$TELNETSYM processor is needed, but where do I put the > > IP address? > > Hans > > =A0From "TCPIP Services, Management", chap 23, "Setting Up and > Managing TELNETSYM" : > > =A0> For example, to set up a TELNETSYM queue named xyz_q to > =A0> print using TELNETSYM to host printserver.xyz.com at > =A0> TCP port 4242, enter: > > =A0> $ INITIALIZE /QUEUE /PROCESSOR=3DTCPIP$TELNETSYM - > =A0> _$ /ON=3D"printserver.xyz.com:4242" xyz_q > > "printserver.xyz.com" could of course be a plain IP address... > > But check the docs! > > Jan-Erik. Jan-Erik, thanks for the pointer, I just couldn't find the correct manual. INIT/QUEUE/PROCESSOR=3DTCPIP$TELNETSYM/ON=3D"10.0.0.102:9100"/ NO_INITIAL_FF SYS$PRINT That was all I needed... Hans ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 02:27:42 -0600 From: Slor Subject: Re: run /detached always fails with loginout.exe Message-ID: Despite all prevention efforts, Slor wrote in news:Xns9A2439E45332emuslor@216.196.97.136: > This is OpenVMS 8.3 on an DEC 3000. Is there something I've neglected > to do in order to make this viable? I was able to run a couple other > .exe files without seeing the error, and from what I can tell this is > the standard method for running any DCL-needing commands from a detached > process. > > Thanks! > Jim and JF - thanks for the answers! The /output thing was definitely my detaching issue, and I also didn't realize before that SHUTDOWN was a symbol defined for running shutdown.com with a bunch of parameters. :) -- James http://www.e-host-direct.com Reliable web hosting from $12/year. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 15:39:43 +0100 From: "P. Sture" Subject: Re: run /detached always fails with loginout.exe Message-ID: In article <4789a83a$0$16160$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>, JF Mezei wrote: > Slor wrote: > > Perhaps someone can give me a quick answer to this... In an effort to > > follow some instructions I found for shutting down VMS from a remote > > session, I am trying this command from my system account: > > > > run /detached /input=sys$system:shutdown.com sys$system:loginout.exe > > Shutdown.com will be prompting for input. Where will that come from ? > > You would probably have to create a different command procedure to > invoke shutdown.com with all the require parameters so that it can > execute without any prompts, and then use that procedure as the /input. Agreed. Something like this should do the trick: $! REBOOT.COM $! -------- $! $! SHUTDOWN.COM parameters are: $! $! P1 - minutes to shutdown $! P2 - reason for shutdown $! P3 - spin down disks? $! P4 - invoke site specific shutdown procedure (SYSHUTDWN.COM)? $! P5 - system will be back "text" $! P6 - Automatic system reboot? $! P7 - Shutdown options $! $ @SYS$SYSTEM:SHUTDOWN 0 SHUTDOWN NO YES LATER YES SAVE_FEEDBACK -- Paul Sture Sue's OpenVMS bookmarks: http://eisner.encompasserve.org/~sture/ovms-bookmarks.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 12:44:55 +0100 From: "Klaus-D. Bohn" Subject: tuning ACP_DIRCACHE Message-ID: <4789f9d5$0$3610$9b622d9e@news.freenet.de> Hello, how i could calculate the system parameter "ACP_DIRCACHE" ? Autogen has proposed no changes. I have a very bad hitrate for this value: Memory Management Statistics: ----------------------------- File System Cache: Current SYSGEN Param Hits Misses Hitrate File Header Cache (ACP_HDRCACHE =2048) 21036780 22102394 48.7% Storage Bitmap Cache (ACP_MAPCACHE = 127) 796850 125308 86.4% Directory Data Cache (ACP_DIRCACHE =4096) 520418122 44883348 0.1% Directory LRU (ACP_DINDXCACHE=1024) 13286325 77691 99.4% FID Cache (ACP_FIDCACHE = 64) 8361809 42199 99.4% Extent Cache (ACP_EXTCACHE = 64) 7869112 484951 94.1% Quota Cache (ACP_QUOCACHE = 137) 0 0 0.0% Which parameters are depends with ACP_DIRCACHE? What must i do to have a hit rate of 99% to reach? Thank you very much for several hints. Klaus ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 12:29:55 +0000 From: "R.A.Omond" Subject: Re: tuning ACP_DIRCACHE Message-ID: Klaus-D. Bohn wrote: > Hello, > > how i could calculate the system parameter "ACP_DIRCACHE" ? > > Autogen has proposed no changes. > > I have a very bad hitrate for this value: > > Memory Management Statistics: > ----------------------------- > File System Cache: Current SYSGEN Param Hits Misses Hitrate > File Header Cache (ACP_HDRCACHE =2048) 21036780 22102394 48.7% > Storage Bitmap Cache (ACP_MAPCACHE = 127) 796850 125308 86.4% > Directory Data Cache (ACP_DIRCACHE =4096) 520418122 44883348 0.1% > Directory LRU (ACP_DINDXCACHE=1024) 13286325 77691 99.4% > FID Cache (ACP_FIDCACHE = 64) 8361809 42199 99.4% > Extent Cache (ACP_EXTCACHE = 64) 7869112 484951 94.1% > Quota Cache (ACP_QUOCACHE = 137) 0 0 0.0% > > Which parameters are depends with ACP_DIRCACHE? What must i do to have a hit > rate of 99% to reach? Hallo Klaus, it's not really a 0.1% hit rate; that's due to DCL arithmetic being limited to 32 bits (31+1 sign). Do the calculation in your head, and you'll see that in fact your ACP_DIRCACHE hit-rate is more than 92%. Depends on your actual workload whether increasing ACP_DIRCACHE would have any substantial effect. Beste Gruesse. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 10:32:30 -0500 From: "FredK" Subject: Re: USB-stick Message-ID: EFI$CP does not support FAT-32. "Forrest Kenney" wrote in message news:47851EE7.56C16E18@hp.com... > > There is no supported way to mount a FAT formatted pen drive. You > can try MTOOLS, or WINFX, or EFI$CP. > > > Forrest > > > > Christoph Gartmann wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> is it possible to mount a FAT formatted 1 GB USB-stick under OpenVMS 8.3? >> The device is recognized as DNA1: but I can't figure out how to mount it >> :-( >> >> Regards, >> Christoph Gartmann >> >> -- >> Max-Planck-Institut fuer Phone : +49-761-5108-464 Fax: -452 >> Immunbiologie >> Postfach 1169 Internet: gartmann@immunbio dot mpg dot de >> D-79011 Freiburg, Germany >> http://www.immunbio.mpg.de/home/menue.html ------------------------------ End of INFO-VAX 2008.026 ************************