Relay-Version: version B 2.10.3 beta 11/15/85; site seismo.CSS.GOV Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/3/84; site panda.UUCP Path: seismo!harvard!talcott!panda!sources-request From: sources-request@panda.UUCP Newsgroups: mod.sources Subject: UUCP Access to Kermit Distribution Message-ID: <1287@panda.UUCP> Date: 10 Jan 86 23:10:43 GMT Sender: jpn@panda.UUCP Lines: 166 Approved: jpn@panda.UUCP Mod.sources: Volume 3, Issue 85 Submitted by: okstate!vasoll There has been renewed interest lately in obtaining the Kermit sources via UUCP. These are the latest instructions for direct uucp access from okstate. Mark Vasoll Department of Computing and Information Sciences Oklahoma State University UUCP: {cbosgd, ea, ihnp4, isucs1, mcvax, pesnta, uokvax}!okstate!vasoll ARPA: vasoll%okstate.csnet@csnet-relay.arpa ------------------------ OKLAHOMA STATE UNIVERSITY KERMIT DIALUP ACCESS UUCP and Kermit access to the complete Kermit distribution is available from the Department of Computing and Information Sciences, Oklahoma State University, Stillwater, Oklahoma. The files from TAPE A are in /usr/spool/uucppublic/kermit-a/* The files from TAPE B are in /usr/spool/uucppublic/kermit-b/* - - UUCP - You need to set up "okstate" as a site in your "L.sys" UUCP dialing file using the information listed below. You can then issue the following commands on your system: uucp okstate!~uucp/kermit-a/aaaread.me /usr/spool/uucppublic (this example will retrieve a general information file about the entire Kermit Distribution. DO THIS FIRST!) uucp okstate!~uucp/kermit-b/ck\* /usr/spool/uucppublic (this example will retrieve the current version of C-Kermit) "/usr/spool/uucppublic" was chosen as the destination on your system since the destination must be WIDE OPEN (drwxrwxrwx) to everyone. You should not remove files from your uucppublic until the entire transfer is complete including any redials that are necessary. If you do remove some files, our system may retransmit them, resulting in a higher phone bill for you. There are 2 files available that contain information about the entire distribution. We recommend that you retrieve these files first. They are "aaaread.me" which explains the file name conventions used, and "aafiles.dir" which is a complete listing (by name) of all files in the in each kermit directory. These files will enable you to choose the right files the first time to save those high dollar phone bills. - ---- UUCP Login information ---- Site Name : okstate Phone number : (405) 624-6953 (one line only) Login name : uucpker Password : thefrog Hours : 24 hours per day, 7 days a week Problem : okstate!uucp-support (UUCP) reports : uucp-support%okstate@csnet-relay (ARPA) The phone number is for 300/1200 baud (bell compatible). The following is a sample L.sys line (\r is a carriage return). You might want to put a time restriction on Any. ("Any2100-900" in Illinois) okstate Any ACU 1200 405-624-6953 "" \r ogin: uucpker word: thefrog Just a few notes on how to best retrieve parts of the Kermit distribution using UUCP... - Install the proper L.sys entry and test it using the debugging option of UUCICO (-x). Repeat this step until you successfully complete a "no work" connection, this will verify that your L.sys entry is correct and will minimize frazzled nerves. - Retrieve the files `aaaread.me' and `aafiles.dir' with the following commands: uucp -c -d okstate!~uucp/kermit-a/aaaread.me /usr/spool/uucppublic uucp -c -d okstate!~uucp/kermit-a/aafiles.dir /usr/spool/uucppublic/files.dir.a uucp -c -d okstate!~uucp/kermit-b/aafiles.dir /usr/spool/uucppublic/files.dir.b You will have to escape the exclamation point and the tilde if you are using the C shell (i.e. ...okstate\!\~uucp/kermit-a...). - Choose the versions of Kermit that you wish to transfer and issue the proper UUCP command. Some systems don't seem to like wildcards, but in any case the wildcards will have to be escaped from your shell. The following command would retrieve the files relating to C-Kermit: uucp -c -d okstate!~uucp/kermit-b/ck\* /usr/spool/uucppublic PLEASE NOTE THE USE OF /usr/spool/uucppublic! Unless you *really* understand how UUCP's protections work you should not change this! A number of people have queued >100 files and had their systems refuse to store them in out of the way places. This results in wasted phone time! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- KERMIT SERVER ACCESS TO THE KERMIT DISTRIBUTION AREA. Okstate also provides access to the KERMIT distribution via a KERMIT Server. The number is the same as above for the uucpker login, so the line may be busy quite a bit. This server is a specialized server with controlled access. At present, the server is only allowed access to the kermit directories on our machine. By issuing the command "REMOTE HELP" from your KERMIT, you will see a description of the commands that the server will recognize, and a line like - --> /usr/spool/uucppublic/kermit-a: r /usr/spool/uucppublic/kermit-b: r This means that the server can read files from the indicated directory. Other possibilities exist, there is w-Write access, d-Delete access, and x-Execute access. At any rate, you can only read from the kermit-* directories at this time, and these are the only directories that you may access. KERMIT login : kermsrv Password : piggy Parity : even Data path : 7 bit Available : 24 hours/day, 7 days a week When the login is completed, the server will start, and you should escape back to your local KERMIT to issue further commands. If the server remains idle for a period of time around 10 minutes, it will be stopped. While the server is receiving data other than NAK packets, it will continue to run. The best place to start after logging on is "REMOTE HELP", followed closely by the desired "REMOTE DIR" commands. If you don't include an argument to REMOTE DIR, you should be prepared for more than 600 lines of output. It is usually better to read the AAAREAD.ME file (using REMOTE TYPE perhaps) and then do the DIR with some kind of wildcard (like "REMOTE DIR ck*"). If your kermit does not support remote commands, then you can get files from either directory by preceding the file name with the proper path, as in: get /usr/spool/uucp/kermit-b/ck* - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - If you are having problems connecting to our system PLEASE send mail to {cbosgd, ea, ihnp4, isucs1, mcvax, uokvax}!okstate!uucp-support - Kind words also make my day! - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks, Mark Vasoll Department of Computing and Information Sciences Oklahoma State University UUCP: {cbosgd, ea, ihnp4, isucs1, mcvax, pesnta, uokvax}!okstate!vasoll ARPA: vasoll%okstate.csnet@csnet-relay.arpa