Article 16846 of alt.security: Path: jac.zko.dec.com!crl.dec.com!pa.dec.com!decwrl!svc.portal.com!uunet!news.cichlid.com!not-for-mail From: aab@cichlid.com (Andy Burgess) Newsgroups: comp.security.unix,alt.security,sci.crypt Subject: STEL VS deslogin Date: 20 May 1995 14:37:52 -0700 Lines: 36 Message-ID: <3plnfg$4kl@loach.cichlid.com> References: <3n0hmd$a5h@ghost.sm.dsi.unimi.it> NNTP-Posting-Host: loach.cichlid.com Keywords: stel crypto security secure telnet Xref: jac.zko.dec.com comp.security.unix:16341 alt.security:16846 sci.crypt:29284 In <3n0hmd$a5h@ghost.sm.dsi.unimi.it> vince@idea.sec.dsi.unimi.it (David Vincenzetti) writes: >Stel stands for Secure TELnet. We started developing Stel, >at the University of Milan, when we realized that eavesdropping >was a very serious problem and we did not like the freeware solutions >that were available at that time. It was about three years ago. >Still, as far as we know, there are no really satisfying packages >able to solve the line active and passing tapping problem, and to be >simple enough to use and to maintain by the average system administrator. >In fact, in our honest opinion, we believe that the actual security >packages available on the Internet suffer from at least one of the >following drawbacks: > - Not secure enough > - Too large and complicated to install > - Too complex to use and maintain > - Unable to scale well in a distributed environment > - Subject to severe export regulations, so not > suitable for users outside the United States How does deslogin measure up here? It does use DES (as does STEL) so I suppose there are export problems. Adding IDEA would not be hard. Also let me encourage the STEL implementors to look at zlib (a streaming gzip-like compression library). I added zlib compresison to deslogin and get 3:1 compression typically. Zlib is totally without usage restrictions. Remember that an encrypted data stream is essentially non-compressable by v.32/v.34/STAC etc so you can really improve your network utilization by compressing. Get deslogin at: ftp://ftp.uu.net/pub/security/des/deslogin-1.3.tar.gz Get zlib at: ftp://ftp.uu.net/graphics/png/code/zlib092.zip or ftp://godzilli.cs.sunysb.edu/pub/ngf/code/zlib092.zip