Subject:
Re: I want Citrix Metaframe Server for OpenVMS !!!! was (Re: OpenVMSMultisessions) OpenVMSMultisessions) OpenVMSMultisessions)
From:
Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@blueyonder.co.uk>
Date:
Tue, 01 Oct 2002 15:20:07 GMT
Newsgroups:
comp.os.vms


"Zane H. Healy" wrote:

> 
> Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

> > yup, I'm finding the latest vnc release to be quite sufficient, apart from
> > lack of direct VMS support.

> 
> What I found really irritating about VNC was that I was unable to have apps
> running on my VMS server display on the VNC session running on my Linux
> server.  In other words, I fire up a VNC session under Linux, connect to it
> on my WinXP box, and then tryed to get DECterm, or DECmail to display on
> that VNC session, no matter what I tried, I couldn't get it to work.


Ah, did you try the security negating -ac switch to Xvnc? I have to use that
with Cygwin to get xdm to work from VMS as well.

so Xvnc -ac -query vaxname

is the way to go if you are happy to use -ac.


> 
> I finally gave up when I found a version of X-Windows that runs on WinXP
> (Cygwin I think), and set it up to act as an XTerminal for my VMS server.  I
> just click on an icon on the WinXP desktop, and up pops the login screen for
> my VMS server.  Not bad for some free software, though I must admit getting
> it setup was a royal pain.


hmmm, Cygwin has a nasty habit of entering paging frenzy then crashing at
inoportune moments. Also, eats up memory the IP stack on W98 is using. Also,
with xdm from VMS, there is a very odd problem of only partial mouse functionality
for me. Xvnc is not quite as nice an Xserver (no scroll mouse for example)
but it isn't crashing continually for me.


> 

> > As my ts10 hosted VMS installation runs pretty much like a MicroVAX II,
> > using vnc sure beats logging in every time I turn on the PC.

> 
> For that you might want to take a look at 'screen'.  I run KLH10 and the
> simh PDP-11 emulators under screen.  That way I can run them detached, and
> access the 'system console' from any telnet session.


Ah, I've been looking for some trick like like. ts10 doesn't seem to like &.


> 
> In the 'tips and tricks' section of the PDP-10 page on my DEC Emulation site
> http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/pdp10emu.html I describe how to start such a
> 'screen' session up in the background.  Perfect for having the emulator boot
> your OS of choice as the UNIX host is booted.


Thanks for that. 


> 
> I've yet to try running either the ts10 or simh VAX emulation.  I really
> don't see much use for running VMS that slow :^)


Well, if I had a real VAX ...


> 
>                         Zane


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