Article 140657 of comp.os.vms: Newsgroups: comp.os.vms,comp.sys.dec,vmsnet.pdp-11 Path: nntpd.lkg.dec.com!depot.mro.dec.com!pa.dec.com!decwrl!lll-winken.llnl.gov!fnnews.fnal.gov!unixhub!sldb6.slac.stanford.edu!fairfield From: fairfield@sldb6.slac.stanford.edu Subject: RE: Read DSC (RSX-11M) tape on VMS? Message-ID: <1996Feb19.193713.1@sldb6.slac.stanford.edu> Lines: 58 Sender: news@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center References: <9602181838.AA14156@uu3.psi.com>,<4ga20f$hsj@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> <4gammh$kgv@milo.mcs.anl.gov> Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 03:37:13 GMT Xref: nntpd.lkg.dec.com comp.os.vms:140657 comp.sys.dec:39272 vmsnet.pdp-11:5630 In article <4gammh$kgv@milo.mcs.anl.gov>, on comp.os.vms, scandora@cmt.anl.gov (Tony Scandora 708-252-7541) writes: [...] > Back in those days, the source language was probably Macro-11, or at best > the old Fortran IV, probably full of six word RSX QIO parameter lists > and Radix 50 conversions. Porting this to VMS may be more trouble than > the old tape is worth. > > We still run VAX-11 RSX, but there is no DSC in it. There is no DSC in > the index of the VMS Exchange manual. [...] > If your tape drive can read the old tape. If enough bits have evaporated > off the old tape, it won't matter whether or not you have software that > can interpret the tape. Before you waste much time trying to read DSC, > use TPC or some other utility to read all of the blocks on the tape. > If the tape is unreadable, you might as well give up. Tony confirms what another person told me in private e-mail (hi Kipp!), that VAX-11 RSX does not contain DSC. One piece of good news in this quest of mine is that I took a closer look at the atpe and found that it is _1600_ bpi, not 800bpi as I had mistakenly said before. So maybe there is some hope (but the point is well take to try to read it before investing a lot more time in the project). In article <4garin$692@gap.cco.caltech.edu>, shoppa@altair.krl.caltech.edu (Tim Shoppa) writes: [in follow-up to Glen Everhart's reference to DECUS RSX tapes] > The utilities you describe are on the RSX86B SIG tape, in the > directory [330,110]. They are available by anonymous ftp from the URL > > ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/academic/computer-science/history/pdp-11/rsx/decus/ > rsx86b/330110 > > (Yes, that all is supposed to be one line! Sunsite is extremely busy > lately, and it may take a while for you to log in using the anonymous > account.) Yep, they're there and I've downloaded the lot of them. Included is the source .FOR and .MAC files, some documentation, and both DSCDIR.TSK and DSCCPY.TSK. The source fortran does reference PDP-11 QIO functions (WTQIO?) and Radix 50 stuff, etc. I'm hoping that I can use DSCCPY.TSK under VAX-11 RSX without rebuilding it from sources. We'll see... Otherwise, I'll need to learn a lot more about VAX-11 RSX before I can pull this off. Thanks to everyone who has posted on this topic so far! :-) -Ken -- Kenneth H. Fairfield | Internet: Fairfield@Slac.Stanford.Edu SLAC, P.O.Box 4349, MS 46 | DECnet: 45537::FAIRFIELD (45537=SLACVX) Stanford, CA 94309 | Voice: 415-926-2924 FAX: 415-926-3515 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- These opinions are mine, not SLAC's, Stanford's, nor the DOE's...