To anyone with any interest in SEND, RJOB etc... read on With the introduction of the "new" SEND etc. procedures, here is a brief explanation of how it works and how to circumvent it if necessary and where possible. The following two lines are extracted from NODES.DAT and will be used in the explanations. ----------- JHG ,alpha-7.1 /cfg /saf /plus /pwrk /swxcr /ck7.0 KIN%ip ,alpha-7.1-2 /cfg /plus /pwrk /ck7.0 /est ----------- NODES.DAT contains a list of all the nodes on the network that are likely to be addressed via SEND, RJOB etc. Nodes like ONL3, ONL7, ONLX25, ONL4, ONLDEM and any other "test" systems are excluded. The general format of the lines is "[%] [,]". The "" is the DECnet nodename (which should match the IP nodename in most cases). The "%" is optional and with no indication to the contrary will default to DECnet. Without any further network configuration complications, the new structure should work without intervention. The most likely problem areas will be in situations where things are being tested or during installations as per the forthcoming installation at Kinghorn where ONLDEM will be in the picture. Using the JHG and KIN examples above; any activity directed towards JHG will use the "default" transport, anything to KIN will use IP. The definition of the "default" transport is controlled via a logical (a wonderfully versatile - and sometimes under-utilised - feature of VMS). The logical is RSTUFF_DEFAULT_TRANSPORT. This is defined on KIN as a system logical with a value of IP, elsewhere this logical is NOT defined and as a result will default to DECnet. Any activity from KIN will use IP (the default on KIN) - regardless of where it goes. This combination implies that from ONL3, access to all nodes in NODES.DAT will be via DECnet except for KIN, which will be via IP. The explicit inclusion of IP as the transport within NODES.DAT will mean that ANY reference to KIN will use IP - you cannot override this if you use "KIN" as the destination. To bypass the transport in NODES.DAT, use the DECnet address (in this case 1.606). This will then use the default transport as defined above. To override the system default transport, simply define the logical RSTUFF_DEFAULT_TRANSPORT to DECnet within your process before doing whatever you want to do. Specifying the nodelist with these procedures can be "tested" if you are unsure about how the nodelist is processed. To see where you will end up in your travels, you can use SYS_FIND_NODES (and I said it didn't do anything that would interest you!) as indicated below. This procedure simply takes what you specify and cleans it up a bit to produce a "valid" list of nodes for the utility that called it. The "mumble" parameter is the name of a symbol that will contain the final list. If you specify anything at all as the third parameter, you will get a debug list of the lists at various stages in processing. $ @olga$sys:sys_find_nodes mumble [] $ show symbol mumble If you find this confusing and require any further clarification... ask. Dave.